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re: Back to school: do you have enough teachers?

Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:41 pm to
A lot of teachers in the Tampa area are saying $47.5k is not worth it. I wonder how many quit because they can't groom.

They are short bus drivers because they pay $15-16/hr. Disney is paying bus drivers $23 and many have gone to the Mouse.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
54080 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:42 pm to
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I don’t know. There have to be some major changes in a whole bunch of areas to sustain the system that we currently have, imo. People just don’t want to do this job anymore, for a myriad of reasons.

You don't think there will have to be major changes in a whole bunch of areas to go to a "distance learning" model like was forced on people during Covid?
This post was edited on 8/6/22 at 2:43 pm
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:49 pm to
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You don't think there will have to be major changes in a whole bunch of areas to go to a "distance learning" model like was forced on people during Covid?


Obviously, there would. It may come to a point that it’s necessary in the best form possible if the current system can’t be sustained.

The thing that can’t be underestimated, though, is just how much people will do to be able to keep their free daycare. I mean free as it applies to those who don’t value education or see its cost to them.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84883 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:51 pm to
How does a 4-day school week solve the lack of teachers problem?
Posted by High C
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Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

A lot of teachers in the Tampa area are saying $47.5k is not worth it. I wonder how many quit because they can't groom.


I tend to wonder how many will quit when they are asked to teach CRT and/or gender fluidity and other nonsense.
Posted by bootycricket1
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2011
1292 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:55 pm to
The way these heathens act these days can you blame teachers for not wanting to teach
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9597 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:58 pm to
I'm 47 and retired.

There's not an amount of money anyone could pay me to work and collect a paycheck.

And there's no way in hell I'm ever passing a drug test for the rest of my life.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37104 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 2:58 pm to
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How does a 4-day school week solve the lack of teachers problem?


They think more people will be willing to teach if there is a 4 day work week
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37104 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:00 pm to
The problem isn’t entry level pay.

The problem is a lack of progressive pay, combined with the lack there f support trenchers get from parents, administrators, and lately, from school boards and legislators.
Posted by midnight_chopper
Member since Mar 2018
637 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:22 pm to
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The problem is a lack of progressive pay, combined with the lack there f support trenchers get from parents, administrators, and lately, from school boards and legislators.


Perhaps if they didn’t insist on taking political stands with their curriculum, they will see less of a political response from those groups and more support. The problem with politics is you’re going to piss off half of the people either way.
Posted by LSU7096
Houston
Member since May 2004
2493 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:25 pm to
Too many animals to control with no help from School District or school Principal/administrators.

Time to expel the trouble kids and make a special campus for those assholes
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 4:38 pm
Posted by IndianPower
Louisiana
Member since May 2021
727 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:32 pm to
The way things are going we will all be learning Chinese soon. #FJB
Posted by High C
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Member since Nov 2012
53803 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:40 pm to
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Perhaps if they didn’t insist on taking political stands with their curriculum, they will see less of a political response from those groups and more support. The problem with politics is you’re going to piss off half of the people either way.


I understand that you only know what you see, but what you’re speaking of is happening through unions and the media. I can honestly say that I don’t know a single teacher who agrees with what is being pushed by those groups.
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
Northeast ohio
Member since Aug 2018
2185 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:42 pm to
No teachers no bus drivers… this is going well
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
29294 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 3:52 pm to
Good friend of mine was a teacher in south Arkansas

She’s been teaching for a few years but just quit

Couldn’t take the teaching and the stress of dealing with the kids and coddling them

She took a marketing job ( with no marketing experience nor degree in it) and got a $20,000 raise from what her teaching salary would’ve been

No brainer for her
Posted by LSUTigerBand85
On the Edge
Member since Nov 2008
239 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:00 pm to
Pay is a big factor, but school safety/student discipline is a larger factor.

I would happily take a pay cut to remove unruly kids from my classroom and restore discipline back to the 1995 level. That is when I started teaching and it has done nothing but decline ever since.

Many teachers here in lower Alabama retire and teach in neighboring Mississippi schools that are rural and discipline is not an issue.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:07 pm to
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Experts point to a confluence of factors including pandemic-induced teacher exhaustion


Weren’t most of those frickers off during Covid? What the frick are they exhausted from? They don’t even work every day. They’re off for every holiday, every weekend and summer. That’s not counting the bullshite weather days and other days off. Could you imagine if they had to work 12
Months out of the year? It would kill them
Posted by ThatMakesSense
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Aug 2015
14794 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:18 pm to
I’ll say it. Teachers are full of shite. They espouse ‘doing it for the kids’ but at the end it’s really about money and their own well being. Probably my most loathed group of ‘professionals’ in America.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
99038 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:20 pm to
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A lot of teachers in the Tampa area are saying $47.5k is not worth it. I wonder how many quit because they can't groom.


Orrrr they can no longer afford to live in the area where they work on that salary? That can’t go far at all in the Tampa/St Pete area.
This post was edited on 8/6/22 at 4:21 pm
Posted by cwil177
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
28431 posts
Posted on 8/6/22 at 4:20 pm to
At what point do we start removing disruptive kids from the class and start forcing them into military schools or trade schools? A big issue I see is people want to teach but they don’t want to baby sit, be threatened, feel like they can’t provide effective education because some jackasses want to be a disruption. I feel like the threat of military school would be a good incentive to behave.
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