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Back the blue: More abuse of Flock cameras by the police

Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:10 am
Posted by weagle1999
Member since May 2025
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:10 am
inb4 ‘If you have a cell phone you agreed to this’

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The criminal investigation into the alleged misuse of Richmond County’s Flock license plate reader system has widened, leading to the arrest and dismissal of three additional Sheriff’s Office employees.

Authorities announced Monday that Lt. John McKenzie, Investigator Curtis Hoskins and Deputy Joshua Johnson were terminated from their positions before voluntarily surrendering at the Charles B. Webster Detention Center later that day. Each now faces charges of misuse of license plate reader data and violation of oath of office.

According to Capt. Danny Whitehead, investigators determined the three officers repeatedly accessed the Sheriff’s Office’s Flock license plate reader database for reasons unrelated to legitimate law enforcement wo

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Posted by Aguga
Member since Aug 2021
4057 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:12 am to
Pimping ain’t easy.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
3320 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:15 am to
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Back the blue: More abuse of Flock cameras by the police


All these guys are using Flock data to track the activities of their wives / GFs / side pieces / kids / relatives / etc.

Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
4187 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:23 am to
they can find grannies that made jan6 facebook posts but our major cities are crime hellholes and no one gets caught.

but put flock cameras in the burbs to track the soccer moms. do nothing chicken shite ticket regime rolls unabated
Posted by TheMantle
Member since Jun 2026
3 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:45 am to
It's by design.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91099 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:55 am to
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they can find grannies that made jan6 facebook posts but our major cities are crime hellholes and no one gets caught.

but put flock cameras in the burbs to track the soccer moms. do nothing chicken shite ticket regime rolls unabated


Its why they put dui checkpoints next to campus and not in the ghetto. The parents will bail them out and pay the fines.


Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59755 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 11:57 am to
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they can find grannies that made jan6 facebook posts but our major cities are crime hellholes and no one gets caught.

Every time ai tries to use facial recognition technology on a member of the crime community it misidentifies them as a large mammal that doesn’t live on this continent
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
108732 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:10 pm to
Louisville Metro is suing to keep the surveillance private, even though it's run by the government and should be available in an Open Records Request.

It was requested by a public defender and they denied the request:

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Last September, public defender Ryan Dischinger was gathering evidence for a case tied to an alleged burglary on West Jefferson Street.

Knowing the city uses surveillance cameras, Dischinger asked for copies of 24 hours’ worth of footage from a roughly three-block radius around the scene to see who may have been coming or going from the area.

Keeping with a recent pattern of refusing to disclose location details about the city’s surveillance apparatus, Louisville Metro government officials wouldn’t provide the recordings. City open records staff said releasing the footage to Dischinger would reveal the locations of various cameras and in turn make them less effective at fighting crime, could expose the city’s vulnerabilities to terrorism, and would cost taxpayer money relocating the cameras to new vantage points.


They then slow played the denial until the video reached the period where it is typically deleted:

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Last month, city officials doubled down on their effort to keep the recordings secret by filing a lawsuit in Jefferson Circuit Court challenging a Kentucky Attorney General decision that determined Louisville Metro broke state open records law by denying Dischinger’s request.

But in a strange twist, the footage that Dischinger wants and the city has gone to court to protect apparently no longer exists. City open records staff indicated in a December response to Dischinger that the footage was erased, in line with the city’s practice of deleting surveillance video recordings after 30 days. Public documents show Dischinger wanted footage for Sept. 2 and submitted his request on Sept. 30. The city denied his request on Oct. 1.


But yeah, totally on the up and up.

LPM Article on Lawsuit
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
6266 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:13 pm to
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All these guys are using Flock data to track the activities of their wives / GFs / side pieces / kids / relatives / etc


The VP of Flock used it to watch girls gymnastics competitions at a community center in Atlanta.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
90825 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:14 pm to
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three officers repeatedly accessed the Sheriff’s Office’s Flock license plate reader database for reasons unrelated to legitimate law enforcement wo


sounds like the issue is with 3 dipshit officers rather than the cameras themselves. Doctors write phony scripts all the time every day but we don't suggest doing away with prescriptions.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104327 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:21 pm to
They should all be torn down.

Locally they have been "discontinued" for the time being.. but they're all still up.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21774 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:33 pm to
The hilarity of these cases is that proponents will scream over and over that you have no public expectation of privacy, yet will try to restrict open access requests on the grounds it could hurt someone's privacy if you got their records.

Someone's movements (along with their kids and family) are either private and need a warrant to access, or they're public and open to everyone.

My issue with this is where certain states have front and back license plates in the car, these cameras take photos of the whole car (kids included), and then they store it on an Amazon Web Services cloud account. What happens when that account is hacked, and the movements of millions of people are released to the dark web, with routines, schools, job, house, time, date, license plate, registered owner, address... Go to the highest bidder?
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21774 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 12:35 pm to
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They then slow played the denial until the video reached the period where it is typically deleted:


This should be a Brady violation and cause for the case to be instantly dropped.
Posted by Athis
I AM Charlie Kirk....
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75634 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 2:31 pm to
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The VP of Flock used it to watch girls gymnastics competitions at a community center in Atlanta.


I’m no proponent of Flock, but wasn’t this story explained as he was using it in a sales presentation? Doesn’t make it right, but neither does calling him a pervert if that was the actual use in this situation
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21774 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 2:57 pm to
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wasn’t this story explained as he was using it in a sales presentation? Doesn’t make it right, but neither does calling him a pervert if that was the actual use in this situation


Eh, if flock set up the camera like this, it's clearly not their first time watching. Someone at flock said "let's focus on kids", entirely seriously, then advertised it to law enforcement.

Who 1)decides that's a great example of their technology? 2) wants to use it like this?
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Archives
Member since Mar 2026
636 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 3:50 pm to
Flock cameras need be eradicated
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75634 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:08 pm to
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Who 1)decides that's a great example of their technology?


Presumably the business, city, school, or local agency that requested coverage there, working with Flock on the exact placement. Flock does not just roam around installing cameras wherever it feels like.

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2) wants to use it like this?


Anyone trying to locate a missing child, identify an abductor, monitor a school perimeter, or reconstruct someone’s movements after an incident.


Again, I’m not a proponent of Flock or any additional surveillance in society, but if we’re going to discuss the topic. It should be grounded in reality.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10902 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:48 pm to
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They then slow played the denial until the video reached the period where it is typically deleted:

For a govt agency is a request that was made on September 30th and then denied on Oct 1st really slow playing it? I would hope some desk clerk isn’t making the decision to hand over that kind of video on the spot.

If the “after” part is policy then technically October 2nd was “after” 30 days (not sure if time of day video recorded also factors in & pushing it to a certain time on the 2nd). Did they deny it a minute before closing on the 1st and then had it auto delete after midnight on the 2nd? Is there any policy on appealing decision including not deleting the video until appeal decision made?
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in line with the city’s practice of deleting surveillance video recordings after 30 days. Public documents show Dischinger wanted footage for Sept. 2 and submitted his request on Sept. 30. The city denied his request on Oct. 1.


Separately I think a court order should be required to get this kind of video, but that process should require video not being deleted once a reasonable and specific request made until a judge decides (if request made in time before a standardized deletion date). That request seems a little broad to just hand over without a court order. It also seems like the cops making the decision could have some major conflict of interest concerns.

Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
75812 posts
Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:58 pm to
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The VP of Flock used it to watch girls gymnastics competitions at a community center in Atlanta.
Sounds like a version of hell to me.
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