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re: Average Sq Ft of homes by decade

Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
781 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:23 pm to
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Okay, we can work from here. The government has had an absurd spending problem for decades now and like a person who eats in a calorie surplus for one year, they gain weight. They do it for 5 years, they grow obese. They do it longer than that, they become morbidly obese. As you become more and more obese over time, it becomes more and more difficult to turn the ship around as well as to even do the things you could 30-40 lbs ago. That's all the argument is from folks who are trying to get ahead today. No one is saying folks didn't work hard before. No one is saying that it's impossible to succeed. People are upset because our leaders are making the job that much harder year after year.


I'm listening, but what is your proposed solution?
Posted by ruzil
WNC
Member since Feb 2012
18368 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:27 pm to
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Doesn’t matter. We sold our 1200 square foot townhome for 160k more than we bought it for in 2025. Owned it for 7 years.


I almost thought you had a Time Machine for a second.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6571 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:33 pm to
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I'm listening, but what is your proposed solution?


Do you mean solutions that would theoretically work but would never in a million years be instituted because it would be political suicide or solutions that would be somewhat tenable in a realistic sense?


By the way, everything I said earlier was simply a descriptive claim. Are you at the point where you're maybe more willing to accept a premise that financially, younger folks really are taking the weiner? You seem like a smart guy and I'm sure if folks could get on the same page, we could collectively come up with solutions but first, we kind of have to agree that there are financial problems that must be addressed or we don't really have a launch point to begin from.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 1:35 pm
Posted by forkedintheroad
Member since Feb 2025
2270 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:37 pm to
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My 4 and 5 year old girls share a bed now and bed time is absolute hell


Shut them in the room at bedtime and tell them to work it out.

You don't have to make their problem yours too.
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
781 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:45 pm to
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Do you mean solutions that would theoretically work but would never in a million years be instituted because it would be political suicide or solutions that would be somewhat tenable in a realistic sense?


By the way, everything I said earlier was simply a descriptive claim. Are you at the point where you're maybe more willing to accept a premise that financially, younger folks really are taking the weiner? You seem like a smart guy and I'm sure if folks could get on the same page, we could collectively come up with solutions but first, we kind of have to agree that there are financial problems that must be addressed or we don't really have a launch point to begin from.


I mean I'm willing to humor this argument for the sake of learning something. I've always been on board with reducing the deficit, so if that is part of your solution then I'm listening.

I'm genuinely curious what should be done? If the solution involves shite loads of government handouts though....you lost me.

So, I will admit the deficit is a growing problem, and also the shrinking supply of usable land is also a growing problem leading to land/housing cost growing exponentially. So, I can see those as a financial problem, outside of those two I'm not sure.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 1:51 pm
Posted by ClientNumber9
Member since Feb 2009
10103 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:46 pm to
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It's not just houses. It's complete lifestyle creep: cars, technology, eating out.


This doesn't get talked about enough. Eating out is REMARKABLY wasteful and it's gone from a 1-2 times a month treat to an every other day occurrence.
Posted by UFFan
Planet earth, Milky Way Galaxy
Member since Aug 2016
2961 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:49 pm to
Yeah, the OP needs to adjust this as a size of home relative to people’s body weight. I assume the results will show that our standard of living hasn’t increased by as much as he’s claiming.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
19821 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 2:06 pm to
I'm currently in 2,050, but can't wait to retire and downsize to either my 964 SF condo, a tiny home, or a RV. I won't need the space as a single man and am tired of taxes and maintenance.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6571 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 2:53 pm to
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I mean I'm willing to humor this argument for the sake of learning something. I've always been on board with reducing the deficit, so if that is part of your solution then I'm listening.





quote:

I'm genuinely curious what should be done? If the solution involves shite loads of government handouts though....you lost me.



Oh you can be safe to assume I won’t be advocating for more government handouts. I’d make an argument that a sizable portion of the issue today is government throwing up on itself. Part of it too, though, is in all honesty our populace. We say we want freedom but there’s a large portion of folks who really don’t, they want safety nets to protect them against poor decisions.


I’m not what I would consider to be a brilliant guy but if we’re talking housing and more specifically housing prices and affordability, it would seem that we would need to increase supply and stop the bleeding on the devaluing of the dollar.


Certainly, getting folks out of the country that don’t belong here will help. Every one that isn’t here taking up housing frees up a spot for a citizen. This next one isn’t politically beloved but I think we give far too much away to people that don’t produce anything except babies. I’d like to see more taxes cut so Americans can keep more money in their pockets. Of course, you’d also have to combine that with a cut in spending which is frankly far overdue anyway; we’re unbelievably overtaxed.




The housing affordability issue to me is a complex one and I don’t think there’s a silver bullet at this point but I think it’s important that people recognize that while we’re fighting each other, we’re all getting it up the butt and the politicians are laughing all the way to the bank.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 3:00 pm
Posted by Techdave
Laffy
Member since Apr 2014
781 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 3:19 pm to
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Oh you can be safe to assume I won’t be advocating for more government handouts. I’d make an argument that a sizable portion of the issue today is government throwing up on itself. Part of it too, though, is in all honesty our populace. We say we want freedom but there’s a large portion of folks who really don’t, they want safety nets to protect them against poor decisions.

I’m not what I would consider to be a brilliant guy but if we’re talking housing and more specifically housing prices and affordability, it would seem that we would need to increase supply and stop the bleeding on the devaluing of the dollar.

Certainly, getting folks out of the country that don’t belong here will help. Every one that isn’t here taking up housing frees up a spot for a citizen. This next one isn’t politically beloved but I think we give far too much away to people that don’t produce anything except babies. I’d like to see more taxes cut so Americans can keep more money in their pockets. Of course, you’d also have to combine that with a cut in spending which is frankly far overdue anyway; we’re unbelievably overtaxed.

The housing affordability issue to me is a complex one and I don’t think there’s a silver bullet at this point but I think it’s important that people recognize that while we’re fighting each other, we’re all getting it up the butt and the politicians are laughing all the way to the bank


Ok so I can get on board with all that. I'm not sure me and you are that far apart.

I was kind of worried that this whole affordability conversation led to handing out money to those first-time home buyers and let the rest of us foot the bill.

I think most of us agree the solution lies in reducing spending and finding ways to make home buying affordable at the same time. Probably involving cutting unnecessary shite, which we know politicians hate....

Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
26023 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 3:22 pm to
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My house is 4750 sq ft. Just letting y’all know that.


Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
16601 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 3:28 pm to
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My house is 4750 sq ft. Just letting y’all know that.

Get back to work Jeeves! Who gave you permission to discuss my butler’s residence?
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38656 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:10 pm to
So we've moved on from "Just buy a smaller house" because those are often in dangerous areas to "Just BUILD a smaller house?"

Just making sure the goal posts are still moving appropriately.




Man, Boomers just won't give an inch on the idea that things are completely different with a completely different set of challenges than they had back then.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476312 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:13 pm to
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So we've moved on from "Just buy a smaller house" because those are often in dangerous areas to "Just BUILD a smaller house?"

Just making sure the goal posts are still moving appropriately.


And they don't realize the cost per square feet is much higher for the smaller houses
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6154 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 4:28 pm to
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I'm genuinely curious what should be done?


Cut/reform ss and medicare
Posted by ZeroSix
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
47 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:38 pm to
It really is nice seeing some take this approach and recognizing there IS a problem, but here is the cold hard truth as I see it ..

Yes, there is far too much frivolous spending taking place by ALL. of course the younger generations are the ones who should spend less and tighten their budget. YET, it’s the older generations that are heavily invested in the same shite that the younger folk are buying. It’s a debt system. It’s a Kick the can down the road system. It will get worse, guaranteed, so long as it keeps getting kicked. But at some point, no matter what, that bill is coming due and someone’s descendants are paying the damn price.

Pick your poison.


Posted by nola tiger lsu
Member since Nov 2007
7359 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 7:46 pm to
And young people insist on being in trendy neighborhoods, way cheaper options available.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
102603 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:10 pm to
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1920: 1,048 square feet 1930: 1,129 1940: 1,177


I find this surprising because seems almost every home from that era still standing today is much larger. My house was built 1940 and is 3,000 sq ft 5 bedroom

Maybe it’s just only the larger better built homes made it this long
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18830 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:13 pm to
Another boomer narrative buried. Anything else?
Posted by ZeroSix
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2017
47 posts
Posted on 4/23/26 at 8:15 pm to
This is about as braindead as it gets. People that take this stance miss the point entirely. It’s not about there being cheaper options available. You’re comparing 19-whatever ancient decade to now. Which way has the trend shifted? Smaller today is NOT the same as yesteryear because of inflation and the debt burden that absolutely NO ONE wants talk about. The sighs are slapping us all in the face, yet we want to sing whatever song that makes the circumstance tolerable.

Edit:

I’m not fear mongering. I’m shining a light on the truth of the situation.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 8:17 pm
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