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re: Average Sq Ft of homes by decade
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:20 am to Techdave
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:20 am to Techdave
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Would I have also loved to see less printing of money post-covid that led to inflation hurting Americans? Abso-fricking-lutely.
George McGovern, if he had been elected, was going to give every American family $1000 to "help with inflation".
My old Dad said that would only increase inflation and was a stupid idea, an opinion shared by most economists at the time.
Gerald Ford's "WIN" initiative, while base, was a much better idea, and far less harmful to the overall economy.
Fast-forward to 2020...
What happens when you print more money and give it away?
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Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:22 am to UKWildcats
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The truth is most would be just fine buying those smaller square foot houses. It's that those neighborhoods have all gone to shite and become ghetto and no one decent wants to live in those neighborhooods.
ding ding
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:32 am to JiminyCricket
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Do you think that our government is and has been fiscally irresponsible relative to printing money?
I have no idea who would downvote this. A dollar today has only 12% of the purchasing power it had in 1970.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:32 am to Scruffy
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So, why don’t people just build a home?
Because it is also expensive as frick and time consuming.
On another forum I post on there is a poster named Irishguy. Back about 10 years ago he and his wife decided to build a cabin up near Mt. Cheaha. This thread shows the build from beginning to end. He is an engineer and did most of the work after the block foundation was laid. It is a small cabin but he put a lot of thought into the layout and I think it turned out great. He has some of the best sunsets in Alabama.
https://www.aldeer.com/forum/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3010633&page=1
LINK
Posted on 4/23/26 at 10:42 am to funnystuff
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Basically, they stopped building anything less than 1400 square feet… and those are increasingly rare.
With elections this year I’ve told two County Commissioners we need affordable smaller houses for young people. I’m vocal about it to them. My town is small enough that no area is really ghetto. I grew up in a 1300 sq ft house with 3 siblings. I know about cozy.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:03 am to Auburn80
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1920: 1,048 square feet
1930: 1,129
1940: 1,177
1950: 983
1960: 1,289
1970: 1,500
1980: 1,740
1990: 2,080
2000: 2,266
2010: 2,392
2014: 2,657
I'm assuming you stopped at the 12 years ago mark because it started dropping after that? It's back to around the 2000-2010 range now. 2,200-2,300.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:28 am to Techdave
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Let me back up. The US government has a spending problem, and the deficit bothers me to no end. I would like them to cut spending to better pay our bills, not cutting spending and turn around and hand that money to someone else. That's my stance on fiscal policy.
Would I have also loved to see less printing of money post-covid that led to inflation hurting Americans? Abso-fricking-lutely.
Okay, we can work from here. The government has had an absurd spending problem for decades now and like a person who eats in a calorie surplus for one year, they gain weight. They do it for 5 years, they grow obese. They do it longer than that, they become morbidly obese. As you become more and more obese over time, it becomes more and more difficult to turn the ship around as well as to even do the things you could 30-40 lbs ago. That's all the argument is from folks who are trying to get ahead today. No one is saying folks didn't work hard before. No one is saying that it's impossible to succeed. People are upset because our leaders are making the job that much harder year after year.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:31 am to RolltidePA
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I have no idea who would downvote this. A dollar today has only 12% of the purchasing power it had in 1970.
It's a really strange thing honestly that I haven't been able to fully wrap my head around. People who are not in what is classified as the "younger" generation will talk your ear off about how the financial situation is this country is unsustainable and our politicians and populace have robbed their own kids and grandkids but will turn around and downvote posts that simply point out what they seem to believe themselves. It's like they take it as a personal shot at them when folks say it's harder today than it was then.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 11:44 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:35 am to fr33manator
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Give me an updated, expanded 70s ranch house any day.
You'd be shocked at how popular it is for folks to read obituaries waiting for these houses.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:35 am to JiminyCricket
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People who are not in what is classified as the "younger" generation will talk your ear off about how the financial situation is this country is unsustainable and our politicians and populace has robbed their own kids and grandkids but will turn around and downvote posts that simply point out what they seem to believe themselves. It's like they take it as a personal shot at them when folks say it's harder today than it was then.
I am right there with you. That always blows my mind.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:42 am to Scruffy
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I am right there with you. That always blows my mind.
I cannot make sense of it dude. It's why I asked Dave the questions I did and he fully agreed that our government has handled finances like absolute dogshite and it's absolutely hurt the American worker's purchasing power but has also been in multiple threads telling everyone how it's not that bad and young folks are just spoiled. It doesn't make sense.
This post was edited on 4/23/26 at 11:43 am
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:42 am to iwyLSUiwy
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I'm assuming you stopped at the 12 years ago mark because it started dropping after that? It's back to around the 2000-2010 range now. 2,200-2,300.
I stopped only because to get more data I had to go to a website overloaded with pop up ads. I wish I could have gotten it to current.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:44 am to Techdave
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Not that farfetched. I'm about to do that myself to get more house for the money. Yes, it will be a shite load of work, but I think I can save 20% by cutting out the builder and sourcing some of the materials myself. Possibly even taking on some of the projects like flooring myself.
But like I said in the original thread, I'm willing to do the work. Not everyone is.
I know this isn't a popular opinion here, but subbing a house out yourself isn't complicated. I'm managing a full renovation for my in-laws right now. It's about 2 hours a week of work. Just get a good set of plans so that each contractor has detailed work instructions, and absolutely have a dumpster, mandating that each person clean up after themselves.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:45 am to Auburn80
We’ve had two threads on it now and still no one is willing to acknowledge the public school issue that goes along with housing cost.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:48 am to JiminyCricket
quote:I have made that same argument before.
I cannot make sense of it dude. It's why I asked Dave the questions I did and he fully agreed that our government has handled finances like absolute dogshite and it's absolutely hurt the American worker's purchasing power but has also been in multiple threads telling everyone how it's not that bad and young folks are just spoiled. It doesn't make sense.
It is one of the arguments I have made in the SS threads.
The older generations recognize that the spending by our government is insane and that their children and grandchildren will suffer because of this, but if you ask them to sacrifice for their kids and grandkids, their opinions shift.
At that point, it becomes “suck it up” and “it’s not that bad”.
They know there is a problem, they talk and bitch about the problem, but the younger generations should just suck it up.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 11:50 am to Auburn80
How much of the stuff in the average family's house is stuff that can be thrown out?
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:16 pm to Scruffy
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The older generations recognize that the spending by our government is insane and that their children and grandchildren will suffer because of this, but if you ask them to sacrifice for their kids and grandkids, their opinions shift.
A lot of times, it doesn't even seem to get that far. I've seen them starting to get grouchy, not for being asked to sacrifice, just for being asked to recognize the b/s.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:26 pm to Auburn80
Mine is 3900 and isn't really that large.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 12:27 pm to Gee Grenouille
Well mine is wasn't so morbid, but yes the couple who had built and lived in the home had one by one passed on and the house sat vacant, with secession squabbles.
We just happened to see it at the right time.
The beautiful thing was the former occupant was an architect and excellent woodworker.
The extensive cabinetry is craftsman quality, not builder. And made of premium woods. You can tell a LOT of thought and love went into this house.
I absolutely love it every time I walk in.
It has zones, and makes great use of the space.
We just happened to see it at the right time.
The beautiful thing was the former occupant was an architect and excellent woodworker.
The extensive cabinetry is craftsman quality, not builder. And made of premium woods. You can tell a LOT of thought and love went into this house.
I absolutely love it every time I walk in.
It has zones, and makes great use of the space.
Posted on 4/23/26 at 1:02 pm to Gee Grenouille
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I know this isn't a popular opinion here, but subbing a house out yourself isn't complicated. I'm managing a full renovation for my in-laws right now. It's about 2 hours a week of work. Just get a good set of plans so that each contractor has detailed work instructions, and absolutely have a dumpster, mandating that each person clean up after themselves.
I'm about to get all into this stuff. I'll take all the pointers I can get!
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