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re: Audit says EBR Council on Aging may have broken state, federal election laws

Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:14 am to
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113838 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:14 am to
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Clark wanted that extra $500 a month



AKA Mercedes lease payments.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58520 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:14 am to
The feds need to make a statement. This would be perfect opportunity to come in and clean the corrupt Dem house. wishful thinking.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122855 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:14 am to
even still this could've been somewhat of a quieter story if tarsha and co. had just admitted defeat on the $500 and left the family alone. Having Gravy vilify the family along with the restraining order is just turning the heat up publicly.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25841 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:20 am to
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IF they actually worked the hours, it MAY not be fraud for FEMA/feds


How? The COA's employee policies in effect at the time of the flood did not allow for exempt employees to be paid overtime. COA leadership figured they could pull a fast one on FEMA so the COA leaders could collect OT pay (whether or not the hours were actually worked is another issue). So they made changes to the COA policies and procedures manual to make exempt employees eligible for OT pay and despite that policy change being made in Sept 2016, they deceitfully tried to make the policy change look like it was part of their procedures manual from 2014 so that they could defraud FEMA and bill them for overtime hours the COA leaders claim to have worked during the August floods.
Posted by Kramer26
St. George, LA
Member since Jan 2005
6508 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:22 am to
Has anyone reported this possible fraud to FEMA?
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:23 am to
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Has anyone reported this possible fraud to FEMA?


Unlikely.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138920 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:23 am to
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even still this could've been somewhat of a quieter story if tarsha and co. had just admitted defeat on the $500 and left the family alone. Having Gravy vilify the family along with the restraining order is just turning the heat up publicly.


If I was the head of the GOEA, I'd be personally going down there to chew TCA's arse for going after the lady that called her out. They gave her a get out of jail free card and she wiped her fat arse with it.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138920 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:25 am to
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Has anyone reported this possible fraud to FEMA?


The more I think about it, the more I don't think it's technically fraud. The issue lies in the fact that they changed the COA policies in an unethical way in order to get the money.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66097 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:27 am to
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AKA Mercedes lease payments.


don't forget her sizzurp addiction




allegedly
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122855 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:28 am to
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They gave her a get out of jail free card and she wiped her fat arse with it.


Makes you think Gravy may have more than a friendly stake in all of this
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
66097 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:30 am to


quote:

Tasha Clark-Amar January 2 · 2017 The year of getting You Right!! Working on me!! #DoBetter



Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2778 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:33 am to
Here is a link to the page to report fraud to FEMA...

Report Fraud!
Posted by YouAre8Up
in a house
Member since Mar 2011
12792 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:35 am to
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The more I think about it, the more I don't think it's technically fraud. The issue lies in the fact that they changed the COA policies in an unethical way in order to get the money.


Maybe, but if the COA (pocket) kept any of that money for themselves wouldn't be fraud?
Posted by gmrkr5
NC
Member since Jul 2009
15143 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:37 am to
sounds like fraud to me

quote:

fraud
frôd/Submit
noun
wrongful or criminal deception intended to result in financial or personal gain.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138920 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:42 am to
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Makes you think Gravy may have more than a friendly stake in all of this


Of course he does. You think she's just going to pump $8 million a year into helping old people?

This whole millage is a giant payoff scheme for Trasha and crew's buddies.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:43 am to
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How? The COA's employee policies in effect at the time of the flood did not allow for exempt employees to be paid overtime. COA leadership figured they could pull a fast one on FEMA so the COA leaders could collect OT pay (

but let's assume they did do the work in terms of hours they billed FEMA

while that violated the COA policies, that's not necessarily a fraudulent billing of FEMA, since they actually worked the hours claimed. the issue would be violating the COA charter/rules, which isn't a federal issue. you'd have to really dig into the FEMA regs to see how you qualify for the hours, but in terms of proving intent, if they worked the hours, they could always defer to the actual work

now if they didn't do the work? clearly fraud in terms of federal law and there are like 100 ways the feds could choose to prosecute that (wire fraud is usually the tool they use)

i'll just put it this way. say they're at trial and FEMA is claiming they used the means of interstate communication to defraud someone (FEMA). TCA and her friends can always just respond with "but we did do the work we billed FEMA" and FEMA would have to get into a highly technical argument about the qualifications for groups/entities in receiving OT, and how this little technical issue created a violation....that they may not have even realized at the time (but obviously realized later). i don't know if that's enough without some "smoking gun" piece of evidence (like an email where they discuss how they can bilk FEMA or something like that)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:45 am to
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Makes you think Gravy may have more than a friendly stake in all of this

i mean he was part of the broome transition team, right?

he's clearly associated with this political machine and is acting as their media mouthpiece

now, relying on someone like Gary to handle your PR and media message likely will come back to bite them in the arse (hell he's already throwing shade on a major, and i mean MAJOR political consulting firm), but this group obviously has issues with long-term planning and strategy
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138920 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:46 am to
Yeah, I doubt FEMA will invest too much time over $12k (of which over $6k went to TCA alone)
Posted by ProjectP2294
West St. Louis County
Member since May 2007
78494 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:47 am to
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i don't know if that's enough without some "smoking gun" piece of evidence (like an email where they discuss how they can bilk FEMA or something like that)


If I had to guess, this exists somewhere. Even if they think they deleted it.
Posted by member12
Bob's Country Bunker
Member since May 2008
33142 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 9:48 am to
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I still don't understand what they were doing to get FEMA $



Nothing in particular.
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