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re: Audit says EBR Council on Aging may have broken state, federal election laws

Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:36 am to
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:36 am to
Gravy was saying Tarsha and co. were misled by consultants.
This post was edited on 5/10/17 at 8:37 am
Posted by Jim Smith
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:38 am to
Diane Deaton is a democrat and probably a member of Together Baton Rouge. She loves the culcha, so you'll never hear anything out of WAFB about corruption at COA.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:38 am to
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the midget in AP who is getting criminal charges for a $1500 bribe has to feel like such a chump

kids shite compared to BR



honestly. i mean even without illegalities, Tarsha is making a frickin' 1/6TH of the alleged benefit they give to seniors.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:40 am to
Oh yeah, forgot about that.


I suppose these consultants told her to defraud FEMA as well, right?
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:43 am to
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Gravy was saying Tarsha and co. were misled by consultants.


Ahh...so its the consultants' fault she and Dorothy Jackson committed a clear conflict of interest with the whole Plummer will fiasco? Probably also the consultants who told the COA that they could go back and retroactively change their policy handbook so it would give them a way to bill FEMA for overtime that may or may not have actually been worked. Damn consultants were probably behind the COA's CEO and CFO running a PAC and conducting PAC business using COA time and resources.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:45 am to
if the feds investigate, i can only imagine what they'd find when going through COA computers, emails, phones, etc

these people didn't seem to be very secretive in their tomfoolery

theoretically, this could fracture the LA DEM party if there really are enough claws in the COA or the larger group was using the COA as a political tool
Posted by LSUJML
Central
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:46 am to
I still don't understand what they were doing to get FEMA $

Doing their jobs helping seniors & FEMA was to pay them for it?
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:49 am to
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Gravy was saying Tarsha and co. were misled by consultants.


Yea, ok Gravy.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:50 am to
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honestly. i mean even without illegalities, Tarsha is making a frickin' 1/6TH of the alleged benefit they give to seniors.



while they have a 1400 person waiting list for meals on wheels.

i bet its 90% white people
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:50 am to
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I still don't understand what they were doing to get FEMA $

Doing their jobs helping seniors & FEMA was to pay them for it?


it's theoretically possible

there was a lot of chaos and i'm sure a ton of seniors were facing major issues, so the COA could have engaged in work to help them. now, what is strange is that they were doing regular operations during a time of disaster and THEN doing OT work for FEMA $, while being salaried, and while OT for those employees was against the COA rules

the biggest question i'd have with the OT was what they were doing during normal business hours, b/c if there was THAT much disruption in BR, i doubt they were doing normal every day business 9-5
Posted by Puck82
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23949 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:51 am to
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Probably also the consultants who told the COA that they could go back and retroactively change their policy handbook so it would give them a way to bill FEMA for overtime that may or may not have actually been worked.


This. He point blank told them you can't do this. They willfully deceived in order to steal additional money. The whole office needs to be cleaned out and start over.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
122852 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:51 am to
you know damn well Tarsha's arse wasn't working 120 hours a week in the heat.
Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:52 am to
hate to ask but can i get a recap of what is going on...

Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:53 am to
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I still don't understand what they were doing to get FEMA $

Doing their jobs helping seniors & FEMA was to pay them for it?


They were putting in "overtime" and were originally going to declare it as "donated time" (which I assume they would be able to claim as a tax break). But, TCA found out that FEMA would reimburse them through emergency funds.

The only problem is that exempt employees aren't allowed to get overtime, so they decided to change the COA policies - after the OT had been completed - so they could get paid by FEMA for overtime that they weren't allowed to receive at the time it was accrued.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
25841 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:53 am to
The alleged FEMA fraud has do to with COA billing FEMA for overtime during the flood. From what I'm understanding from the stories, seems like they had a bunch of exempt salaried employees who normally wouldn't be entitled to overtime pay. Then COA bosses figured out that they could try to bill FEMA for it, so they amended the COA policy in September for those employees to be entitled overtime pay. That got rejected because the floods happened in August and the amendment to COA policy happened after that, so someone at COA had the date on the policy amendment removed and attached it as part of a COA policy and procedure book from 2014, attempting to make it look like the overtime policy had been in place prior to the floods so that COA could collect money from FEMA for it.
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:54 am to
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hate to ask but can i get a recap of what is going on...


Posted by Cdonaldson27
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2015
1083 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:55 am to
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Gravy was saying Tarsha and co. were misled by consultants.


So if I hire a consultant, they give me bad advice and I act on it, I should blame them and its their fault?
Posted by Anonymous95
Member since Sep 2014
2101 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:56 am to
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I still don't understand what they were doing to get FEMA $


Here is the way I understand it. FEMA will reimburse an entity for hours worked during a disaster but only if that entity incurred costs for those hours worked.

Since the COA did not normally pay OT to exempt employees, the COA would not have had additional costs for the Director and CFO's supposed OT work during the flood.

Realizing that they could potentially make extra money, the COA changed their employee handbook (after the flood) to state that exempt employees were eligible for OT pay if they worked hours above their "normal" hours (assuming that was 40 hours per week).

Knowing that if this change was made after the fact, that FEMA would most likely deny the OT cost claim, they colluded to ensure there was no date on the OT pay rule change making it appear as if this was always the rule.

So, they claimed that the COA incurred additional wage costs due to the flood so that FEMA would reimburse, when in fact there would not have been any additional costs if the original pay rules had been followed.

That's fraud.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
138920 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:57 am to
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theoretically, this could fracture the LA DEM party if there really are enough claws in the COA or the larger group was using the COA as a political tool




Yeah, that new giant budget was definitely planned to be used as a political tool and not just some outlet to play bingo and sling meals.
Posted by Cdonaldson27
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2015
1083 posts
Posted on 5/10/17 at 8:57 am to
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That's fraud.


Yep. Federal Fraud
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