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re: Ascension parish president proposes year-long moratorium on new developments
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:52 pm to SaintsTiger
Posted on 5/18/21 at 8:52 pm to SaintsTiger
This is long overdue and it should be halted in the tri parish area. FEMA requirements that allow us to get lower flood insurance rates are not being enforced, natural drainage plains are being blocked every time a new development is allowed in one of these low areas. This is flooding more and more upstream existing housing and not one of the parishes is addressing. Not possible to come up with a solution for existing flooding when every new subdivision adds to it.
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Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:08 pm to Bruiser12221
Will this moratorium increase ascension parish home prices?
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:22 pm to titmouse
Part of the answer is common sense and staring everyone in the face ala old houses. Build off the ground. Slab houses make no sense in south Louisiana. Also use permeable material for driveways and sidewalks.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:26 pm to BottomlandBrew
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worked for almost a decade in stormwater design in southern Louisiana. We worked very hard to try and move the region in to the 21st century as it relates to stormwater design. It continually fell on deaf ears. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and the politicians who rubber-stamped the developments are now trying to deflect. frick 'em.
Well said, I work in similar field and most municipalities/counties/state DEQs have embraced/mandated/ issued grants for Low Impact Development techniques for years.
Basic tenet is post construction site conditions must meet site pre condition hydrologic condition. Permeable pavers, bio filter swales, green roofs, etc are used to keep storm water on site to promote groundwater recharge or grey water irrigation.
Louisiana missed the boat (no pun) and will be flood ridden until billions spent on retrofits with LID techniques. NOLA is 50 years too late but finally has ordinance for new parking lot mandate eliminating impervious surfaces.
Chickens and their offspring have be roosting for years. Louisiana gets the leaders we deserve.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:37 pm to goofball
That plan makes a lot of sense and could be executed with minimal expense and impact to current residents. But they’ll wait until both watersheds are filled in and developed before considering it.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:52 pm to Geauxldilocks
Absolutely the right answer !
Posted on 5/18/21 at 9:56 pm to Geauxldilocks
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Basic tenet is post construction site conditions must meet site pre condition hydrologic condition. Permeable pavers, bio filter swales, green roofs, etc are used to keep storm water on site to promote groundwater recharge or grey water irrigation.
Boy that makes way too much sense.
Posted on 5/18/21 at 10:00 pm to Jones
You can't pump enough water into the MS from one parish to affect anything
Posted on 5/19/21 at 1:04 am to titmouse
My proposal for EBR, Livingston, and Ascension:
1. Demand that the ACE actually get started on the $225 million in dredging and lining various bayous and creeks to improve drainage. They were supposed to be nearly done by now. They have not even gotten started.
2. Build the Darlington Reservoir. Some redneck’s useless piece of land is not more valuable than communities of hundreds of thousands of people. Build a dam, flood the reservoir, allow fishing and recreational boating....and control the Amite.
3. Next time Ibberville tries to build an Aqua dam along Manchac road to keep the flood waters higher in EBR and AP to save a few trailer parks.... blow up the dam, destroy the road, and flood the few dozen idiots that choose to live IN the Spanish lake swap instead of the many thousands who live upstream and uphill in Baton Rouge or northern Ascension. Then execute whoever ordered the dam to be built.
1. Demand that the ACE actually get started on the $225 million in dredging and lining various bayous and creeks to improve drainage. They were supposed to be nearly done by now. They have not even gotten started.
2. Build the Darlington Reservoir. Some redneck’s useless piece of land is not more valuable than communities of hundreds of thousands of people. Build a dam, flood the reservoir, allow fishing and recreational boating....and control the Amite.
3. Next time Ibberville tries to build an Aqua dam along Manchac road to keep the flood waters higher in EBR and AP to save a few trailer parks.... blow up the dam, destroy the road, and flood the few dozen idiots that choose to live IN the Spanish lake swap instead of the many thousands who live upstream and uphill in Baton Rouge or northern Ascension. Then execute whoever ordered the dam to be built.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 6:40 am to member12
Every time I drive down bluff, I wonder how in the hell did people get approval to build new slab on grade houses on the low side backing up to Spanish Lake, why in the hell would someone even think its a good idea, who would even insure those homes, and where is their wetland permit.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:05 am to Bazzatcha
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where is their wetland permit.
You don't need one when you slide a councilman, like Corey Orgeron, a couple stacks.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:10 am to titmouse
"Good. The sprawl that has gone unchecked for decades is directly causing this increased flooding. It's the wild west in this state and no one wants to tell developers "no"."
THIS in AP.
"5-10 years past due"
More like 20-25. The overdevelopment without infrastructure and drainage started in the mid to late 80's.
"Here's the other problem: Ascension can't even pass a local tax to fix their road network."
TRUE
"Developers will just threaten to sue like they do everytime this is dicussed. The council will back down like they do everytime."
True.
"Did Ascension parish grow too fast or has the local government of Ascension parish been shite for decades?"
Yes to both. Grew too fast without any thoughts on infrastructure to handle the growth and it's too late now to try and correct it.
Local government has always been a good ole boy mess.
THIS in AP.
"5-10 years past due"
More like 20-25. The overdevelopment without infrastructure and drainage started in the mid to late 80's.
"Here's the other problem: Ascension can't even pass a local tax to fix their road network."
TRUE
"Developers will just threaten to sue like they do everytime this is dicussed. The council will back down like they do everytime."
True.
"Did Ascension parish grow too fast or has the local government of Ascension parish been shite for decades?"
Yes to both. Grew too fast without any thoughts on infrastructure to handle the growth and it's too late now to try and correct it.
Local government has always been a good ole boy mess.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:10 am to Bazzatcha
But my buddy can't build a house on his land that his family's owned for over 100 years that is at 16' because there's wetlands in the corner of it. This parish is fricking shite.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:10 am to Picayuner
quote:Such as crushed stone? Naw. Hard on the feet and maintenance-wise.
Also use permeable material for driveways and sidewalks.
Or “Permeable” Concrete? Naw. Snake-oil fix around here, fines fill the voids.
What else ya got?
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:10 am to Geauxldilocks
I can remember one EBR council meeting I was at where Smokie Bourgeois was voting against installing a green roof on the library. He literally said, "My wife can garden in the yard. Why would she put her petunias on the roof." 
Can't fix stupid.
Can't fix stupid. Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:13 am to Bazzatcha
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Every time I drive down bluff, I wonder how in the hell did people get approval to build new slab on grade houses on the low side backing up to Spanish Lake, why in the hell would someone even think its a good idea, who would even insure those homes, and where is their wetland permit.
They built a whole elementary school out there.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:14 am to soccerfüt
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Or “Permeable” Concrete? Naw. Snake-oil fix around here, fines fill the voids.
I have some pervious concrete installs in the area that have been there for over a decade and haven't had their voids filled in. What else you got?
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:15 am to titmouse
about time. hope he sticks to it. they've said this in the past and palms get greased and subdivisions get built.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:15 am to soccerfüt
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Or “Permeable” Concrete? Naw. Snake-oil fix around here, fines fill the voids.
Permeable concrete has to be vacuumed every now and then. More trouble than its worth.
As far as the permeable pavers in use around LSU and in Baton Rouge...it’s lower maintenance. Sand is supposed to fill the larger voids. But they do appear to break easier than regular concrete.
Posted on 5/19/21 at 7:16 am to member12
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built a whole elementary school out there
And they built it in the fricking slough.
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