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re: Ascension parish president proposes year-long moratorium on new developments

Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27097 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 1:59 pm to
Many parishes in Louisiana have ignored drainage issues for decades. They've rubber stamped stormwater plans for developments without ever checking that:

A) The calculations even correct (basically if it has an engineer's stamp on it from someone they know, then it gets approved)
B) The stormwater facilities are built according to plans, and
C) The stormwater facilities are maintained.

I've seen numerous developments where it can easily be seen that the stormwater facilities do not have enough capacity. They're not designed properly to begin with, then they were silted in during construction, and then filled with cattails and ragweed because no one bothered to maintain them. You end up with a detention basin that has 30% of it's already intended capacity.

The parishes have also been extremely territorial and refused to work with one another to solve the issues. Water doesn't give a crap about an imaginary parish line. The only place I ever saw cooperation was between Orleans, Jefferson, and Plaquemines, and that was only because the feds were involved.

I worked for almost a decade in stormwater design in southern Louisiana. We worked very hard to try and move the region in to the 21st century as it relates to stormwater design. It continually fell on deaf ears. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and the politicians who rubber-stamped the developments are now trying to deflect. frick 'em.
Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1243 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:05 pm to
Shouldn't local government support the local population? What happened? Did Ascension parish grow too fast or has the local government of Ascension parish been shite for decades?

You can stick your fingers in your ears and say you're not a Baton Rouge suburb, but it's here and Ascension Parish is a sprawl of Baton Rouge. Get your shite together and expedite roads and drainage or find a new job.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
73681 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Did Ascension parish grow too fast or has the local government of Ascension parish been shite for decades?


Yes.

The school system was great before the boom and is still great now. The demographics of the school system are the reason for the success, not some great management. Outside of schools AP is just average.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted by NOLALGD
Member since May 2014
2234 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

I worked for almost a decade in stormwater design in southern Louisiana. We worked very hard to try and move the region in to the 21st century as it relates to stormwater design. It continually fell on deaf ears. Now the chickens are coming home to roost and the politicians who rubber-stamped the developments are now trying to deflect. frick 'em.


Yes, this is absolutely right. Will add not all development is evil and not all density is bad. But the overwhelming refusal to allow/prioritize infill development with some density in areas served by existing infrastructure on road corridors with capacity and the potential for expansion is killing us.

I'm not saying this is the right solution because it would create additional problems, but maybe its time for a true urban growth boundary for parishes in South Louisiana.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11484 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 2:31 pm to


Taxpayers have been saying this even before the 2016 flood. But, there is no way to fight it. You cannot go hire an attorney and engineer to double check every project.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14477 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:26 pm to
Is there a website that has details of all the waterways and where they flow to? I know there’s the GIS site but I don’t see anything that shows “this flows into this. Then this”
Posted by Masontiger92282
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
98 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:31 pm to
A lot more than if they dont
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67089 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:36 pm to
Gonzales is home to one of the best breweries in the state, my baw
Posted by HuskyPanda
Philly
Member since Feb 2018
1726 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:39 pm to
And Dempsy Lambert
Posted by goofball
Member since Mar 2015
16864 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

maybe its time for a true urban growth boundary for parishes in South Louisiana.



Maybe explain what that is to some of those other posters that have no idea what you are talking about. I would do it for you but I am busy.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27097 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

But, there is no way to fight it


You can hold your elected officials accountable.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7808 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:47 pm to
quote:

Gonzales is home to one of the best breweries in the state, my baw


True statement.
Posted by BigJake
Baton rouge
Member since Jan 2006
1534 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:47 pm to
Lawler posted on Facebook today he was for this and he and Clint were working together on the moratorium.
This post was edited on 5/18/21 at 3:48 pm
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

I worked for almost a decade in stormwater design in southern Louisiana. We worked very hard to try and move the region in to the 21st century as it relates to stormwater design.

You probably should've started with a more realistic goal of mid-20th century. Baby steps.
Posted by Domeskeller
Member since Jun 2020
7808 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 3:58 pm to
Sure, he says that now. Let’s see whether it passes. If it doesn’t, let’s see how he votes next time.
Posted by Shanegolang
Denham Springs, La
Member since Sep 2015
3453 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 4:13 pm to
Too little too late bro!
Posted by SaintsTiger
1,000,000 Posts
Member since Oct 2014
1120 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 4:18 pm to
Why don't the get some cranes, bulldozers, etc. and start moving earth? Not that hard.

Does anyone know if this was done after the 2016 floods? If not why not other than they want to wait to get that sweet, sweet federal grant money so they can dole out brother in law deals.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
2057 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 4:35 pm to
Clint works behind the scenes with the same thieves that those who came before him. This is political theatre and nothing more. See Lawler as an example.
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 4:40 pm to
Its about time and he has my FULL support on this. It NEEDS to happen.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Alpha Silverfox
Member since Oct 2011
41605 posts
Posted on 5/18/21 at 4:41 pm to
Just allow all the flash flooding backup caused by development to find its home in the rivers and bayous that they naturally drain into and half or more of the flash flooding issues in this parish would be solved. Enforce all the litter laws with mandatory fines for first time offenders, have crews whose only job is to clean litter and ditches do just that every day all day across the parish, and redig all the ditches and replace culverts so that the water can flow. The problem is that the water doesn't have a way to drain into its natural drainage canals anymore and the natural drainage canals can't drain properly because of litter build up and improper sediment management.

Let's not pretend the drainage issues in this parish is a one-sided problem and blame development when it's a combination of development and clogged drainage systems.
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