re: Are people still upset about not having hydroxychloroquine?

thanks! not quite sure what question you're asking here...

can you rephrase?

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because it seems that people on fox news are no longer clamoring for it, or hammering governors for not "giving" it to the covid patients anymore.

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Dude, that is so yesterday's con. The game today is attack any politician of a party different than you unless they open totally and absolutely in the next 15 minutes. Get with the program.

Let's get something straight: doctors were not giving people hydroxychloroquine based on Trump's blithering. They were giving this to people out of desperation and some early indications that it worked. That it turned out not to work is awful and frustrating.


It is DISGUSTING that hardcore black dems from Nola are coming onto this board giddy that a potential treatment might not be effective.

Their brothas, sistas , aunties, and cousin pookie are dropping dead from the disease all over Nola and Detroit and Chicago, and they are not upset that a potential treatment isn’t effective


They care more about politics

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it's almost like you should wait to see if the solution works before you start telling people that it does.

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From the article you linked:

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The nationwide study was not a rigorous experiment.

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The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists.

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Maybe you should take your own advice and wait for confirmation before you claim "victory."

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I'd imagine if you have the Corona virus and want the hydroxychoroquine but can't get it, you may possibly be upset. Many doctors, patients, and researchers swear by it, many do not, many want more research.

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it's not that i wouldn't want access for people to try to opt into a clinical trial to test it, i just might not want to stand from my pulpit as america's most watched "news" source and tell people that they SHOULD want to try it.

i might as a news network tell people that it might not work and that it might damage my heart. i also might say that people need the drug for other diseases and not attack people for withholding it.

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That it turned out not to work is awful and frustrating.

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Clinical testing is still ongoing

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i might as a news network tell people that it might not work and that it might damage my heart. i also might say that people need the drug for other diseases and not attack people for withholding it.

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I haven't seen any of that but if it bothers you, become a news anchor or talk show host and report it the correct way.

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I guess you aren’t going to answer my question because I said I didn’t want to argue. So let’s argue.

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no i was unclear on the exact question, and asked you above to re-phrase so i could better answer your question.

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So your stance is that you believe this treatment makes you 2.5x more likely to die than other forms of treatment? Not just ineffective but more likely to kill you than the virus itself?

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no. the stats doesn't show any indicator that the drug is 2.5 times as dangerous than the virus itself. it does continue to show that the drug in the largest sample size that the drug may be ineffective at fighting the virus as standard of care.

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You believe the clinical tests that have yet to be administered (or completed rather) would support this?

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i believe the clinical tests will show that the drug might be able to administered in certain and particular cases to COVID patients until better ones arrive, but that it would be irresponsible to promote its widespread use because of the side effects and inefficacy. i also believe as other drugs become available, the secondary prescriptability of this drug will be rescinded by the FDA

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The better question to ask you is, do you have some bias outside of this treatment? Be honest with yourself.

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yes. i'm biased against fox news. i think it spreads horrible information and is anti-science.

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Maybe you should take your own advice and wait for confirmation before you claim "victory."

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my victory isn't that it doesn't work, uptopar.

if it works, i'll be super happy. i'll take it myself.

i find it funny that you're more upset at my rush to "proclaim victory" than a "rush to proclaim a viable treatment".

Still waiting on that link