re: Are people still upset about not having hydroxychloroquine?

Are you referring to an unscientific retrospective review of a few hundred charts? Is that your gotcha?

You should stay at home until we have a vaccine instead. The drug worked for a couple of people that I know. Fortunately they didn't wait until they were about to go on a vent until they were giving the drug.

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imagine being so delusional that you think that a cure, despite being told by expert and medical professionals does not work, and is drawing attention and funding away from the hard work and development of things that actually do work, actually will work

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Let's ignore the fact that they are attempting to rig the largest clinical trial and many of the others because the doctors that are touting its effectiveness have said that once you are hospitalized and have been experiencing symptoms for a week that the medication combo of Hydroxychloroquine Azithromycin and Zinc is nowhere near as effective as it is if taken early right after symptoms appear.

Why would they do any study where they give it to people that are already hospitalized if the early research has shown that it is nowhere near as effective taken late as it is if it's taken early.


Aren't some of the studies being done without the Azithromycin and Zinc?

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You mean like all of the pandemonium that was created over a possible shortage of ventilators when they're now saying that ventilators don't really help and in some cases even make matters worse?

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I’m just wondering if OP ever even attempted a response to this post.

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How dare you question orange man durrr

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You managed to pack, without excluding other fallacies, an ad hominem, a false dilemma, and a straw man all into one short "sentence." Congrats.

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it's almost like you should wait to see if the solution works before you start telling people that it does

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Dr: “not looking good for you, you’re on death’s door but there is a drug that has proven to be safe that might work but not 100% certain.”

Me: “Has is passed clinical trials for Covid only?”

Dr: “No”

Me: “nah. I’m good.”

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OP went on living his productive life for a minute,

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That would be interesting, if OP hadn’t spent around 90 minutes rapid fire responding to the posts to him in this thread, the majority of which came after the post I was curious about.

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and didn't feel like the post merited a response.

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Ah my mistake. I mistakenly though this would be a pretty low threshold given the multiple ‘what sources are acceptable to you’ posts that were made.

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it would be akin to saying that acknowledging that there weren't enough life vests on a boat to account for the number of people on the boat, and calling a want to gear up to supply said life jackets "creating pandemonium".

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You seem to have left out a minor detail. Does gearing up to supply said life jackets require shutting down the economy, ordering people to stay in there homes, restricting what can and can’t be sold in stores, preventing people from receiving important medical treatments, etc? Because if not, then it’s not really akin to this at all, is it?

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also, having extra life jackets is not a bad thing. a life jacket is a thing you have in case a boat sinks. ventilators are the standard of care of what you give in case people go into respiratory failure. they are not experimental.

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As the post you were conveniently too busy to respond to originally pointed out, the anticipated need for ventilators was absolutely experimental because they didn’t know if it was effective in treating the virus or not. And as it turned out, the experiment didn’t really work and often caused even more harm.

“It’s almost like you should wait to see if the solution works before you start telling people that it does.”

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to further draw the analogy out,

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That seems like a good idea to you? Interesting.

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OP is annoyed that certain news were touting "floating pills" in case the boat sinks, and even more annoyed when certain posters were angry that the floating pills weren't being made widely available.

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That’s cool. Posters are annoyed that OP only seems to want to apply his line of thinking to fit certain situations and not others. Posters generally don’t like hypocrites.

standard of care isn't experimental. it's standard of care.

and because i can frick off for 90 minutes, and multi-task enough to check the board, i can't be productive?

look i'm sympathetic to anyone hurting because of the shelter in place rules. i'm not sympathetic to snake oil peddlers attempting to promote miracle drugs before they know their efficacy.

by the way, you might have noticed, the CDC has revised their guidance to change it to stop saying that it's anecdotally effective. it's almost like they don't want people asking for it anymore, because it hasn't been proven to work.

also, ventilators are STILL the last line of defense in COVID cases. just because doctors managed to mitigate the symptoms enough to not need them as that last line, doesn't mean that they weren't necessary if the patient went into full respiratory failure...

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What’s the standard of care for covid 19?

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ventilators are standard of care for respiratory failure, which covid 19 can cause.

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Bristol Dawg

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