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re: Are people still upset about not having hydroxychloroquine?

Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:58 pm to
Bernie Bros
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 1:59 pm to
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nd maybe giving people false hope, creating an unnecessary uproar and false outrage for an unproven medical solution, creating multiple straw men to attack for withholding this false hope, seems counterproductive to a cause. maybe even borderline irresponsible... and people on this board seem to have a real hard time distinguishing "wanting a drug to be a cure" versus "promoting it as a cure before it has been tested" it's almost like you should wait to see if the solution works before you start telling people that it does.



False hope? If this is your shot at Trump then you should direct your hatred towards everybody.

This is the problem with you hypocritical assholes. Go travel to wuhan, go get on a cruise, you will be fine, go hug a chinese person. You dumb fricks down played this shite. The people like Pelosi and Biden that criticize Trump every step of the way, do so from their mansions like fricking cowards.

And there have been studies that showed promise with the drug, and some not so much. But how is it a states governors place to deny treatment of any kind? Especially a drug we already have been using for fricking decades.
Posted by LSUfanNkaty
LC, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:00 pm to
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Why are people rooting for it to fail?



You know that answer....
Posted by SHOtime Tiger
Member since Aug 2019
1361 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:00 pm to
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but if it was untested, why not be prepared in case it did work?


Because it created a shortage for people with diseases like Lupus. It can legit cause harm to people.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:00 pm to
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it has been disproven multiple times. no one was listening.


From your link:

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The study was posted on an online site for researchers and has not been reviewed by other scientists.


I’m not trying to argue with you, but are there not studies that show the opposite the that also share the same pitfalls? That they haven’t been researched/properly tested?
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:00 pm to
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even at the time it was being promoted, it's medical effects had been disproven in mutiple studies, calling its success anecdotal at BEST. at worst, it was causing massive heart problems for healthy people.


You should go tell Yale that. If it causes heart problems for healthy people, why they **** would they give it to people with heart disease/HTN?
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:01 pm to
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Are you going to link your earlier statement or are you conceding that you’re pushing your opinion as fact?


just doing my due dilligence. would reuters count for you?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:03 pm to
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it's medical effects had been disproven in mutiple studies,


link to said studies please.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:03 pm to
I already answered that
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:04 pm to
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imagine thinking that something that cause heart arrythmias in people with healthy hearts, is the same thing as simply "not curing people".


BREAKING NEWS: Pharmaceuticals have side effects.

Explain how this totally new news has anything to do with hydroxychloroquine being beneficial when administered early enough.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:04 pm to
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I already answered that


is reuters included in your list of acceptable outlets?
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33256 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:05 pm to
I already answered that dummy. Post the link
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:08 pm to
Largest Study to date- Virginia

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Researchers analyzed medical records of 368 male veterans hospitalized with confirmed coronavirus infection at Veterans Health Administration medical centers who died or were discharged by April 11.

About 28% who were given hydroxychloroquine plus usual care died, versus 11% of those getting routine care alone. About 22% of those getting the drug plus azithromycin died too, but the difference between that group and usual care was not considered large enough to rule out other factors that could have affected survival.


LINK

And no, i'm not happy that 17% more people died than otherwise would've.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted by LSU5508
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2007
3781 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:08 pm to
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imagine being so delusional that you think that a cure, despite being told by expert and medical professionals does not work, and is drawing attention and funding away from the hard work and development of things that actually do work, actually will work


Well that's just a blatant lie. Dozens upon Dozens of doctors have said it has worked but timing matters with this particular drug. Feel free to parrot lies though. Remember he's still your president!
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
44412 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:08 pm to
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karmapol1ce



Reads headlines and excitedly come to OT with in your face.

Finds out he didn’t read entire article.

Looks retarded.

Profit.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:08 pm to
all you have to do is say reuters is good by you. not posting the link til you do.
Posted by LSU Fan 90812
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Member since Feb 2005
50655 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:09 pm to
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Well that's just a blatant lie. Dozens upon Dozens of doctors have said it has worked but timing matters with this particular drug. Feel free to parrot lies though. Remember he's still your president!


i've only mentioned fox news and hannity in this. read every post.

i haven't said anything about the president.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
91714 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:09 pm to
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it has been disproven multiple times. no one was listening. and why would i be excited that it doesn't work? it makes me even sadder.


i cant believe you linked that as some proof it doesn work. ( talking about the article you linked)

8 more people died that had taken it than didnt.

Now tell me all of their comorbidities. When they tested positive for Covid 19, the ages, their race, the condition of every patient when the study started.

And the biggest thing of all, how many received the cocktail and how many just got hydroxychloroquine.
This post was edited on 4/22/20 at 2:12 pm
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33256 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:09 pm to
if you scared say you scared bitch

Post the link or we will all assume that statement is just more of your emotional hand wringing in here
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38578 posts
Posted on 4/22/20 at 2:11 pm to
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17% more people died than otherwise would've.
I'm not sure you can make that assumption based on 368 guys with prior medical conditions.
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