re: Are people still upset about not having hydroxychloroquine?

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what would be the advantage of a lot of doctors rigging a clinical trial? what would it gain?

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That is the real question. How many doctors do you really have to have control over? Isn't the one study you all are beating your chest over done with 97 people.


We all saw Miss Corbett's social media comments and she's the lead researcher at the NIH. And she's only researching for a cure for one race. If she had a vaccine ready to go by July it would be next August before it was ready for public consumption because it would take a while to figure out how to make it not work for white people.


Dr Fauci is her boss and has been in his position for how many years now isn't it going on 30+. He is being praised but nobody is asking him or blaming him for not being prepared for this pandemic. It is entirely orange man bad.

They are literally still pushing a narrative that they were saying close up the borders earlier when there is video evidence of them doing the exact opposite almost a month after Trump acted.What did they call him for doing it? The number one ad hominem attack in racism and the number 9 ranked ad hominem attack xenophobic.


Are you denying that there have been quite a few doctors that have treated a lot more patients with the drug combination of hydroxychloroquine Azithromycin and zinc than the 97 used in that one study the Democrats are beating their chest over.


Also that every one of those doctors touting its effectiveness have said on the record that they have seen far better results taking it early rather than late.


So why are they admitting and have for two weeks that they were giving the hydroxychloroquine to only hospitalized patients in the largest clinical trial in New York.


Please explain to me why Dr Fauci has been against it from day one despite reports from doctors that were actually treating patients stating the opposite.


Instead of being praised Dr. Fauci should be fired. To be in that position for three decades and be this poorly prepared.


For him to have inside knowledge more so than anybody about how inefficient and corrupt the W.H.O actually is and could have stepped up years ago and stopped funding going to them.


In the private sector Dr. Fauci would already be fired. Only in the government can you be that inept at your job and be in no danger of losing it.

The same reason people "just wonder" on any of these threads.

You think that is a clinical study as you mentioned later that disproves it. You must be special.

It was done after the fact. 7 of the 97 getting HC & 12 of the 113 getting HC & AZ didn't start medicine until after they were already put on ventilators. As it wasn't a study during their treatment (and is not a clinical trial at all), but at the time it was doctors trying to treat patients with different symptoms and different severity levels including those 19 getting worse being out on ventilators and then starting them on HC or HC/AZ.

They (HC group & HC/AZ) also had a higher % of their numbers with median SpO2 below 95% and also below 90%; Had higher % of their numbers with median temps 38.1C or higher; Higher % of their numbers with tachycardia and median systolic blood pressure levels above 159 and 140 to 159; Had higher % of numbers with anemia and Higher % of their numbers with C reactive protein greater than 69.

The HC group had highest % of their numbers that were smokers, had Peripheral vascular disease, had congestive heart failure issues, had chronic pulmonary disease, had diabetes, had diabetes with complications, and also had highest median BMI at 30.5 and median age at 70 (though others at 68 and 69).

Besides all that All 3 groups totaled only 368 patients from VA hospitals (probably because they could get the data) were all males between 59 and 75 and 64% black. Not a great sample across American because it was never that but doctors treating the patients in front of them not for a study, and then some ran some numbers on after the fact but the ones treated with HC and HC/AZ were worse off as a group before treatment than people they found not treated with them. Doctors trying what they could to help them as they got worse including 19 on ventilators already before either of the HC treatments given.

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Imagine being so deranged that you get excited over a cure for a pandemic potentialy not working

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About the same level of derangment required to scream something is a cure and accusing the government of consipacies to deprive people from it so they die

The lunatic wing of both parties is OOC.

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but that's not what was happening on fox

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1. Stop watching Fox if this upsets you.

2. You need to lighten up

We was meant as my hospital system (6 hospitals in the New Orleans area) As of last week, the system was down to 12 left from 35 the week before. It was assumed those 12 would be off by this upcoming weekend. Again this is for my hospital system, but the others were in similar shape.

I get a stat update every morning from the hospitals.