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re: Anyone who supports these protesters and taking down statues

Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:19 am to
Posted by Mootsman
Charlotte, NC
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:19 am to
You could say the same thing about the American Revolution. But you're a hypocrite.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:19 am to
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Understood. My question is where do you logically go with that? Where does it stop? What is enough? Everyone who identifies as being 'offended' by something ……? These things are symbolic of our history as a Nation, seems to me the Marxist playbook (erase the past and start over today) is near the center of all of this faux outrage. Semper Fi to the good things in life, virtue, kindness, understanding, tolerance, learning, discerning, and so on. Not destruction and lawlessness.


I agree with everything you just said. There’s a lot bullshite being peddled to the masses in the guise of political correctness, and it’s making a mockery of our principles as a nation. My stance on this particular matter stops specifically with Confederate statues. All these morons tearing statues of the Founding Fathers and other great figures who had a positive influence are either uneducated or part of this ridiculous Marxist movement.
Posted by Flashback
reading the chicken bones
Member since Apr 2008
8479 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:19 am to
Do u want to fight dude?
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:21 am to
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:23 am to
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You could say the same thing about the American Revolution. But you're a hypocrite.


No I’m not. The Founding Fathers who led the revolution would give birth to a set of ideals that would create the greatest form of government in human history. The Constitution, the Bill of Rights the Second Amendment, etc. That far outweighs the negatives of the war. The Civil War was a tragedy. There was a lot of heroism and many men who earned honor and respect on both sides of the conflict. But if was a tragedy and the darkest time in our history. They are not the same.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
64086 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:23 am to
Just in case you haven't been paying attention, it's not stopping at Confederate statues.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:24 am to
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Just in case you haven't been paying attention, it's not stopping at Confederate statues


And you think I’m okay with that?
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:28 am to
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can you tell me why?


Because many of us, well over 50% of Americans, don't understand why we allowed governments to erect statues celebrating racist, traitorous figures who oversaw the imprisonment and killing of American citizens and soldiers.

Well, we actually do know why. Because the vast majority were erected during the Jim Crow Era, as a reminder to them "damn kneegras" that the white man still has their thumb over them. Politicians had decades to take them down and didn't. So, you get protestors taking the initiative to handle it themselves.

The only bad thing I see about the whole issue is the idiots who don't know history and just target a statue for the sake of it being a statue, despite the person memorialized having had a positive impact on our union and/or the people.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32318 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:32 am to
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i don't really give a shite about statues, to be honest


Neither do I! Hell, I can't ever remember visiting, viewing, taking pictures of any statue in my entire life other than the Lincoln Memorial on a visit to DC.

I live in the heart of the South and I couldn't take anyone to a statue if they held me at gunpoint. I've never had the inclination to even google to find out where they are. I just don't care.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
57611 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:35 am to
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Yes. They should have all their likenesses destroyed. It won't change history, though.

You are basically making the argument that once the mores of society evolve, everyone who used to be revered should be canceled. In 100 years they might think that eating vegetables is evil. At that point, folks like you will think that everyone from the current era was evil and should have their statues torn down.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291703 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:35 am to
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Mo Jeaux




Kind of sad we ran you off the Rant. Miss your stupidity and blind, ignorant confidence.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61886 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:36 am to
Let’s put all of this in perspective.


Every single bit of the below is from one rogue cop putting his knee on the neck of a convicted felon with a history of violence and criminal activity


Statues torn down all over this country

Looting and burning people’s businesses to the ground

Rioting, throwing shite at cops, burning vehicles, defacing public and private property,

Killing cops and civilian alike

People kissing black people’s boots, making FOOLS of themselves in apologizing for their genetics, and shite they have no personal responsibility in.

Beatings of anyone that gets in their way or dares to speak against their actions, many times leaving them to bleed out in the streets

Kneeling on little white infant’s necks, saying all kinds of vile, evil, and hateful rhetoric aimed at white people and cops in general

Shaming anyone in sports who doesn't agree with BLM and who refuses to bend their knee during the national anthem.

Ridding the country of anything confederate, be it statue, name on a building, or flag, but not just confederate. NAY, anything to do with the founding of this great nation is under attack.

Changing sports mascots to appease the filth.




I have absolutely nothing but contempt for anyone who supports such garbage in America.

It’s no longer about black lives mattering. If only it were about that, we could find common ground, but the actions demonstrate that it’s most assuredly NOT. It’s about everyone else’s lives meaning nothing, and wantIng me to value one life over all others?. Not happening. You’re the most intolerant bigots to ever breathe air in America, and you’re polluting it by doing so.

And as for the parents of those people, they have contributed perhaps more than anyone in putting the screws to the greatest country this world has ever seen, and who’s done more than any other country to make the world a better place to live for all. By failing to raise their children with values and a set moral standard for their children to live their lives on, they have created these monsters. Why is it important to have a strong father figure in homes with a strong mother figure as well, raising their kids up right? WELL, here you go. This is why.

Horrible human beings, and it’s exactly the reason I have absolutely nothing but contempt for the Democrat party. It is a cesspool that does nothing but spread hatred and division in this country, promotes being unaccountable for your actions, and has NO ANSWERS for that which ails America, just contempt and finger pointing, and for that which THEY themselves had a heavy hand in creating in the first place. The absolute ONLY reason that Democrats have power is they spread fear, hatred, and division in this land, without which they would be an extinct political party. That you can be sure of.







This post was edited on 7/24/20 at 8:46 am
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14872 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:39 am to
No ideology has oppressed and murdered more of it's own citizens than Communism in the 20th century up to the present.

This statue in Seattle hasn't been touched by those woke motherf**kers who claim to stand so stoically for "human rights". And I think everyone who's honest knows why.




Here's my message to them: We know who you are- and you'll never win this fight you seem to be begging for.

Believe that.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:40 am to
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You are basically making the argument that once the mores of society evolve, everyone who used to be revered should be canceled. In 100 years they might think that eating vegetables is evil. At that point, folks like you will think that everyone from the current era was evil and should have their statues torn down.

As long as everybody votes to make those people evil, then it's perfectly fine with me
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
22489 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:46 am to
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I don’t have an issue with removing Confederate statues.



Yeah...apparently Robert E. Lee wouldn't have had a problem with it either.

"As regards to the erection of such a monument as is contemplated, my conviction is, that however grateful it would be to the feelings of the South, the attempt in the present condition of the country, would have the effect of retarding, instead of accelerating its accomplishment; of continuing, if not adding to, the difficulties under which the Southern people labor...All I think that can now be done is to protect the graves and mark the last resting place of those who have fallen."~ Robert E. Lee on a proposed civil war memorial in 1866




"I think it wiser not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered" ~ Robert E. Lee on a proposed Gettysburg memorial in 1869.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:50 am to
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Well, we actually do know why. Because the vast majority were erected during the Jim Crow Era, as a reminder to them "damn kneegras" that the white man still has their thumb over them. Politicians had decades to take them down and didn't. So, you get protestors taking the initiative to handle it themselves.

Yeah, that's not true at all.

Many of these Confederate monuments were erected at a time when the romanticization of the southern forces fighting for a lost cause came into bigger fashion. People like you have thrust your stupid theories into common thought. I'm sure you think the 1619 project is some sort of historical analysis masterstroke as well.
Posted by yatesdog38
in your head rent free
Member since Sep 2013
12737 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:51 am to
We need more statues of winners not losers. How would you feel if there was a 10 foot tall statue glorifying Curley Hallman at the biggest entrance to LSU? That's what we got right now on the doors of court houses all throughout the south.

Now there is a bunch of shite that needs to end for sure like vandalism but we could do a better job immortalizing Americans that actually were great and we're also winners.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 8:59 am to
The Lenin statue should come down, obviously. Unlike the Confederate statues, the Lenin statue is actually privately owned and sits on private land.

I wasn't aware of that statue, oleheat. Found an article about its history here
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
10189 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:01 am to
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Yeah, that's not true at all.


Really? History.com, along with any other history book, disagrees with you.
Posted by ProfFrink
Springfield
Member since Nov 2018
3407 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 9:04 am to
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This statue in Seattle hasn't been touched by those woke motherf**kers who claim to stand so stoically for "human rights". And I think everyone who's honest knows why.


That statue is constantly getting “vandalized”. Hell they dress it in drag a good bit.

If you think that statue is honoring him you are way off base.






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