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re: Anyone who supports these protesters and taking down statues

Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:36 am to
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64623 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:36 am to
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You aren’t saying anything


quote:

Deafjam73


Yes.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:36 am to
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Well, I'm not making that argument, so thanks, I guess?


Hence why I said "typically". You're on the same side of the discussion as those who typically make that argument, and you immediately got a vote of approval from Mo Jeaux on your take.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:37 am to
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Hence why I said "typically". You're on the same side of the discussion as those who typically make that argument, and you immediately got a vote of approval from Mo Jeaux on your take.

Yeah, not really, but thanks for opining, sweetie.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:37 am to
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I don't mind cities putting things to a vote and letting citizens of the area decide if they should remove a statue or not. That is the way things should be done, but unfortunately it is not done that way


Just so we're clear, I don't believe it took a vote to put up any of the statues that have been taken down, so I see no reason to require it for removal.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:37 am to
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
32439 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:38 am to
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Then we have the example of the people living in a gated community defending their homes and being charged for it.
If one watched any of the news during the time this started happening, it's obvious that these protesters weren't there for peaceful demostrations; they were there to cause physical harm to people.



While I don't like the removal of statues and how they're being forced down by the mob actions, I don't lose sleep over it at night.

The above situation is entirely different. Those were homeowners that did nothing wrong and are getting arrested for it. If you can't protect your home from the same mob that pulled down statues, then this isn't the same America that I thought I lived in. I do lose sleep over that.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64623 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:38 am to
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You've got to forgive Mo Jeaux, he's a one trick pony in these discussions. He's infuriated people try to approach any situation with nuance and logic.


Yes, the nuance of statute removal and destruction of a civilization’s shared ideology.

Do “the conservative case for allowing chicks with dicks into restrooms with your wives and daughters” next!

You impotent Conservative, Inc. hucksters can’t conserve shite.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14872 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:38 am to
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Despite what people say, it does not change history.


No- but if you destroy every symbol of history, what have you accomplished? Anyone who thinks doing this will change mankind and suddenly make everyone love one another is only kidding themselves.

We aren't living in a Disney production.

Besides- the people who do these things are lying about their motives, anyway. They hate America for many more reasons than a period of her history they never experienced.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139245 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:39 am to
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I do think it's stupid to celebrate people who are simply not worth celebrating.

Agree. I don't think FDR is worthy of celebration either.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64623 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:39 am to
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you immediately got a vote of approval from Mo Jeaux on your take.


I rarely use the vote feature, fwiw.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64623 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:40 am to
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Just so we're clear, I don't believe it took a vote to put up any of the statues that have been taken down, so I see no reason to require it for removal.




You’re pathetic.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:42 am to
Just because someone isn’t super hardline right and a “staunch conservative“ on every single issue/Fox News talking point.... doesn’t mean they are a Marxist or someone who doesn’t stand for anything. Probably just someone who is a little more moderate and thinks through the issues instead of immediately taking the party line on every single thing.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:42 am to
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I rarely use the vote feature, fwiw.


I wasn't talking about up votes, I was talking about you quoting his take and saying "bingo."

If that's not a vote of approval, I apologize.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:42 am to
I give an opinion on a very specific question and you and your buddy think you know my entire political ideology. No room for moderation or nuance. Again, you aren’t saying anything.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:44 am to
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Do “the conservative case for allowing chicks with dicks into restrooms with your wives and daughters” next!


Nah.

See, this is the benefit of using your brain. It's much better than being told what you should/shouldn't support based on political parties.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64623 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:44 am to
Please do tell us about your moderation and nuance. I’m all ears.

I always enjoy the principled conservative take.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:45 am to
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You’re pathetic.



It's it true or false that, by and large, statues being removed without a vote were erected without a vote?
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45206 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:46 am to
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But you do realize it’s possible to acknowledge and even celebrate history and historical figures while also recognizing and acknowledging their faults, right?
Louis Armstrong was a drug addict, cheater, and wife-beater. Gets airport named after him.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
64623 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:47 am to
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It's it true or false that, by and large, statues being removed without a vote were erected without a vote?


Sophistry. It’s unbecoming, and an attribute of women and effete men.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
19122 posts
Posted on 7/24/20 at 7:48 am to
You think because I’m okay with the removal, and I mean legal removal, of very specific statues that I’m immediately affiliated with a certain group. That is false. All you’re doing is hurling insults and looking down your nose. Either you’re here fishing for an argument, or you’re hardcore set in your principles and won’t allow for any deviation.
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