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Anyone Want to Go into the Dry Ice Business?
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:25 pm
We use dry ice a good bit in my line of work, and it seems like in every city that I'm over its a pain in the arse finding it. Everyone is always out. What gives? Seems like a good market to enter...
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:29 pm to Funky Tide 8
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What gives? Seems like a good market to enter...
Not enough demand
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:34 pm to Funky Tide 8
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and it seems like in every city that I'm over its a pain in the arse finding it.
Perhaps that has to do with little demand, hence why not many people are in the dry ice business
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:34 pm to Funky Tide 8
AI - artificial ice
Sam Altman was double dog dared as a kid.
Sam Altman was double dog dared as a kid.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:42 pm to Funky Tide 8
Starting a dry ice business typically involves either (or both) manufacturing/selling dry ice or offering dry ice blasting (cleaning) services. These are related but distinct: production focuses on making and distributing the product (pellets, blocks, slices), while blasting is a service using dry ice for industrial cleaning. The global dry ice market is growing steadily (around 7% CAGR), driven by food/pharma shipping, cold chain logistics, and cleaning applications.
Here's a breakdown of what's involved, based on common requirements.
1. Market Research and Business Planning
Identify your niche: Production for resale (food transport, medical, events, grocery stores) or blasting services (industrial equipment, mold/fire restoration, automotive, food processing plants). Many combine both—produce your own supply for blasting or resale.
Demand assessment: Check local needs in Louisiana (e.g., food processing, oil/gas, shipping via ports, events). Competitors include suppliers like Red Ball Oxygen or Airgas. Look for underserved areas or specialized uses (e.g., fishing/seafood cooling in the Gulf region).
Business plan: Project costs, revenue, break-even. Include scenarios for optimistic/realistic/pessimistic demand. Gross margins are often around 30%, but can be higher with efficient production.
Location: Proximity to liquid CO2 suppliers is critical for production (high transport costs otherwise). Industrial zoning with good ventilation, power, and space.
2. Legal and Regulatory Requirements (US/Louisiana Focus)
Business formation: Register as LLC or similar, get EIN, local business license, sales tax permit.
Zoning and building permits: Industrial facility approvals; plans review for production plants.
Food safety (if selling for food use): In Louisiana, ice manufacturing (including dry ice for certain uses) falls under LDH Food and Drug Unit regulations. Submit detailed facility plans (plumbing, electrical, etc.) for Permit to Operate. Certificate of Registration for distributing bagged ice.
Hazardous materials: Dry ice (solid CO2, UN1845) is regulated for shipping (Class 9). Follow DOT for ground, IATA for air. Requires proper labeling, venting packaging, training. No shipper's declaration needed in some cases, but compliance is mandatory.
Safety/OSHA/EPA: CO2 monitoring, ventilation, PPE. Environmental permits for emissions or waste. Hazardous materials handling certification may be needed.
Insurance: High liability coverage due to extreme cold (burn risks), asphyxiation hazards in confined spaces, and equipment operation. Premiums can be significant.
Other: EPA/DEQ compliance for industrial ops in Louisiana; possible weights/measures for sales.
Consult a lawyer familiar with hazmat and a local regulatory expert early—non-compliance risks fines or shutdowns.
3. Equipment and Setup for Production
Dry ice is made by expanding liquid CO2 (LCO2) to form snow, then compressing it.
Core needs:
Access to reliable, affordable LCO2 supply (major ongoing cost).
Liquid CO2 storage tank/reservoir.
Dry ice pelletizer/block/slicing machine (small units ~80-350 kg/hr; larger for scale). Costs vary widely—tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands depending on capacity.
Three-phase power, compressed air, reinforced foundation, insulated piping, ventilation/exhaust, CO2 monitors, insulated storage containers.
Optional: CO2 recovery system to improve efficiency (reduces LCO2 waste).
Facility: Adequate space, moisture protection, safety features. Site visits from suppliers (e.g., Cold Jet) can help plan.
Startup costs: High for full production (equipment + infrastructure can easily exceed $100k–$500k+). Smaller-scale or blasting-only is cheaper.
For blasting services (lower barrier): Blaster machine ($17k–$55k+ entry-level), air compressor ($12k–$25k new), aftercooler, nozzles, PPE, dry ice supply. Total startup often $50k–$150k+.
4. Operations and Safety
Production process: LCO2 delivery ? pelletizer ? packaging/storage ? distribution. Sublimes quickly, so fast turnaround and insulated transport are key.
Supply chain: Secure LCO2 contracts; manage volatility/shortages.
Safety: Asphyxiation risk (CO2 displaces oxygen), frostbite, pressure buildup. Training, monitors, ventilation mandatory. PPE for handlers.
Transportation: Ventilated vehicles; hazmat compliance for shipping.
Staff: Trained operators, maintenance techs. Start small (owner-operated) or hire.
5. Marketing, Sales, and Finances
Customers: Food processors, pharma distributors, restaurants, event planners, industrial plants, laboratories.
Pricing: Varies by form/volume; factor in high variable costs (LCO2, energy, transport). Blasting services: $200–$500+/hour.
Distribution: Local delivery, partnerships with shippers. Build recurring contracts.
Profitability: Depends heavily on volume, LCO2 costs, and efficiency. Production has economies of scale but high upfront/capex. Blasting has service margins but equipment wear and competition. Many report strong potential but emphasize realistic projections.
Ongoing costs: Raw materials (biggest), energy, maintenance, labor, insurance, marketing, vehicle/fuel.
Challenges and Tips
High barriers: Capital-intensive for production; technical know-how; regulatory hurdles; competition from big suppliers.
Risks: CO2 supply issues, equipment breakdowns, seasonality in some markets, liability.
Opportunities: Growing cold chain demand, eco-friendly appeal (recycled CO2), bundling with blasting services.
Next steps: Contact equipment makers (Cold Jet, etc.) for quotes/site assessments. Research local LCO2 suppliers. Develop a detailed financial model. Consider starting with blasting services to test the market before full production. Network in industrial/food sectors in Louisiana.
Here's a breakdown of what's involved, based on common requirements.
1. Market Research and Business Planning
Identify your niche: Production for resale (food transport, medical, events, grocery stores) or blasting services (industrial equipment, mold/fire restoration, automotive, food processing plants). Many combine both—produce your own supply for blasting or resale.
Demand assessment: Check local needs in Louisiana (e.g., food processing, oil/gas, shipping via ports, events). Competitors include suppliers like Red Ball Oxygen or Airgas. Look for underserved areas or specialized uses (e.g., fishing/seafood cooling in the Gulf region).
Business plan: Project costs, revenue, break-even. Include scenarios for optimistic/realistic/pessimistic demand. Gross margins are often around 30%, but can be higher with efficient production.
Location: Proximity to liquid CO2 suppliers is critical for production (high transport costs otherwise). Industrial zoning with good ventilation, power, and space.
2. Legal and Regulatory Requirements (US/Louisiana Focus)
Business formation: Register as LLC or similar, get EIN, local business license, sales tax permit.
Zoning and building permits: Industrial facility approvals; plans review for production plants.
Food safety (if selling for food use): In Louisiana, ice manufacturing (including dry ice for certain uses) falls under LDH Food and Drug Unit regulations. Submit detailed facility plans (plumbing, electrical, etc.) for Permit to Operate. Certificate of Registration for distributing bagged ice.
Hazardous materials: Dry ice (solid CO2, UN1845) is regulated for shipping (Class 9). Follow DOT for ground, IATA for air. Requires proper labeling, venting packaging, training. No shipper's declaration needed in some cases, but compliance is mandatory.
Safety/OSHA/EPA: CO2 monitoring, ventilation, PPE. Environmental permits for emissions or waste. Hazardous materials handling certification may be needed.
Insurance: High liability coverage due to extreme cold (burn risks), asphyxiation hazards in confined spaces, and equipment operation. Premiums can be significant.
Other: EPA/DEQ compliance for industrial ops in Louisiana; possible weights/measures for sales.
Consult a lawyer familiar with hazmat and a local regulatory expert early—non-compliance risks fines or shutdowns.
3. Equipment and Setup for Production
Dry ice is made by expanding liquid CO2 (LCO2) to form snow, then compressing it.
Core needs:
Access to reliable, affordable LCO2 supply (major ongoing cost).
Liquid CO2 storage tank/reservoir.
Dry ice pelletizer/block/slicing machine (small units ~80-350 kg/hr; larger for scale). Costs vary widely—tens of thousands to hundreds of thousands depending on capacity.
Three-phase power, compressed air, reinforced foundation, insulated piping, ventilation/exhaust, CO2 monitors, insulated storage containers.
Optional: CO2 recovery system to improve efficiency (reduces LCO2 waste).
Facility: Adequate space, moisture protection, safety features. Site visits from suppliers (e.g., Cold Jet) can help plan.
Startup costs: High for full production (equipment + infrastructure can easily exceed $100k–$500k+). Smaller-scale or blasting-only is cheaper.
For blasting services (lower barrier): Blaster machine ($17k–$55k+ entry-level), air compressor ($12k–$25k new), aftercooler, nozzles, PPE, dry ice supply. Total startup often $50k–$150k+.
4. Operations and Safety
Production process: LCO2 delivery ? pelletizer ? packaging/storage ? distribution. Sublimes quickly, so fast turnaround and insulated transport are key.
Supply chain: Secure LCO2 contracts; manage volatility/shortages.
Safety: Asphyxiation risk (CO2 displaces oxygen), frostbite, pressure buildup. Training, monitors, ventilation mandatory. PPE for handlers.
Transportation: Ventilated vehicles; hazmat compliance for shipping.
Staff: Trained operators, maintenance techs. Start small (owner-operated) or hire.
5. Marketing, Sales, and Finances
Customers: Food processors, pharma distributors, restaurants, event planners, industrial plants, laboratories.
Pricing: Varies by form/volume; factor in high variable costs (LCO2, energy, transport). Blasting services: $200–$500+/hour.
Distribution: Local delivery, partnerships with shippers. Build recurring contracts.
Profitability: Depends heavily on volume, LCO2 costs, and efficiency. Production has economies of scale but high upfront/capex. Blasting has service margins but equipment wear and competition. Many report strong potential but emphasize realistic projections.
Ongoing costs: Raw materials (biggest), energy, maintenance, labor, insurance, marketing, vehicle/fuel.
Challenges and Tips
High barriers: Capital-intensive for production; technical know-how; regulatory hurdles; competition from big suppliers.
Risks: CO2 supply issues, equipment breakdowns, seasonality in some markets, liability.
Opportunities: Growing cold chain demand, eco-friendly appeal (recycled CO2), bundling with blasting services.
Next steps: Contact equipment makers (Cold Jet, etc.) for quotes/site assessments. Research local LCO2 suppliers. Develop a detailed financial model. Consider starting with blasting services to test the market before full production. Network in industrial/food sectors in Louisiana.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:42 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Anyone Want to Go into the Dry Ice Business?
How about catching ferel cat business, I just found out my HOA pays $200 per kitten removed.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:47 pm to Funky Tide 8
Not sure where you live, but Rouse's sells it
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:51 pm to Funky Tide 8
quote:
every city that I'm over its a pain in the arse finding it.
Welding supply places are my usual source.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:56 pm to Funky Tide 8
IDK exactly where yoy are, but Rouses always has it. They get deliveries on Thursday morning.
Bring your own gloves.
Also, check with meat packers in your area.
Before summer holidays, it's always scarce.
You can generally search the web, and call the sellers.
Im only talking 80- 100 lbs, so you may be looking for larger quantities.
Bring your own gloves.
Also, check with meat packers in your area.
Before summer holidays, it's always scarce.
You can generally search the web, and call the sellers.
Im only talking 80- 100 lbs, so you may be looking for larger quantities.
Posted on 6/22/26 at 4:58 pm to Funky Tide 8
Most Super 1/Brookshires, Some Uhaul places, Some specialized shipping places
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:25 pm to Funky Tide 8
I remember from chemistry putting some dry ice pellets in ethanol or isopropyl alcohol creates a very cold bsth ( approaching-80C). Have always wondered how fresh fish flash frozen at -80 would work?
Pretty sure they do something similar for most tuna sold through Japan for sushi but could be wrong
Pretty sure they do something similar for most tuna sold through Japan for sushi but could be wrong
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:27 pm to NorCali
quote:
Pretty sure they do something similar for most tuna sold through Japan for sushi but could be wrong
I think most of those long range boats flash freeze, thought they used liquid nitrogen though
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:37 pm to Funky Tide 8
You be doing that inerting, baw?
Posted on 6/22/26 at 5:53 pm to Zendog
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what is wrong with you?
I was curious about what it takes to run a dry ice business and asked grok. Thought I’d share.
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