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re: Anyone familiar with case of Nathaniel woods? Set to be executed in murder where he didn’t

Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:51 pm to
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:51 pm to
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Yeah, well if one day you are with someone and you have no idea they have a plan to kill someone..

WTF?

Did you even read any of this thread? The dude not only had knowledge, but he lured the cops into the ambush.

Chris, where do you come up with this shite? If you would maybe read the thread, then comment, it could save you from making unrelated statements.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:52 pm to
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Yeah, well if one day you are with someone and you have no idea they have a plan to kill someone.. And as the two of you are going about your day, that person pulls out a gun and shoots some people. And you are put on the row.. We will know that you have no problem with it because.. You were around the situation when it happened so you deserve to be put to death as well.


Well, have you been selling crack out of a house with your friend for a period of time prior to this day? Did you threaten one of the officers that morning? Did you tell them you would frick them up when they came to the crack house to arrest you? These would be important facts to know about you hypo that has nothing to do with this case
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:53 pm to
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I do. I think there is a good chance it is a couple of thugs talking shite to the police trying to showoff and act tough rather than it meaning f you come back we have a plan in place to ambush and murder you.


Yes it could mean that in some cases. But in this case it means “we are going to murder you” as evidenced by the fact that they did, in fact, murder them. 1 shot in the head and 2 in the back.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:54 pm to
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I am sure they sat down and planned out an ambush and murder over a misdemeanor warrant though.


People kill others every day over less, a misdemeanor warrant has no bearing on this case. Spencer was obviously willing to kill over it, so why wouldn't they have planned it or discussed it?
Posted by JG77056
Vegas baby, Vegas
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:55 pm to
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t doesn't prove to me he "planed" for the police officers to be murdered, no.


So his plan was just to fight them with his hands then he decided to murder them all at the last minute?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:55 pm to
Why is the actual shooter still not executed? Why are they executing Woods first?
Should do both at the same time and should have been years ago
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:56 pm to
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It isn't just about sympathy for the man. It is about identifying ridiculous injustice in our legal system and with law enforcement. You're the type of person that is ok with Civil Asset Forfeiture because the people are "likely up to no good anyway".

I don't know much about this case, but if he's on death row and didn't kill anyone or fire a shot, then I'm not sure how someone can accept our justice system doing that.

Give them an inch and they'll take a mile.


This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted by jchamil
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:58 pm to
Read the thread and decided he did more than just use drugs in a house?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:58 pm to
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I am sure they sat down and planned out an ambush and murder over a misdemeanor warrant though.

So you choose just to COMPLETELY ignore this eyewitness testimony?
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Two female acquaintances of the men testified that, after Owen and Collins left to confirm the outstanding warrant for Woods’ arrest, Woods said he would kill the cops. A man who was there with them testified that Spencer said he would “light ‘em up,” and Woods concurred.

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One of the women tried to get Woods to leave the apartment with her, but he said he wanted to stay with Spencer in case the officers returned.

The officers left to go confirm the warrant. Then these thugs planned what they were going to do if the cops returned.

Like the earlier poster said, it's always interesting to see which posters, when shown actual facts, instead of rethinking their position, double down. It's arrogance, btw.

Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 2:59 pm to
How many people have to die violent deaths and how many people do we have to lock in cages before we throw our hands up and legalize drugs?

We aren’t stopping it at all, so do we continue to waste so many lives and resources?

I think there is a lot of money to be made fighting a drug war and locking people up in “for profit” prisons.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19496 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:00 pm to
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Why is the actual shooter still not executed? Why are they executing Woods first?


Looks like it's because of the method of execution Woods chose
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:00 pm to
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Yeah, sometimes you need to get the FULL story. His family and the libs aren't gonna tell you this part. He wasn't just an innocent victim that got caught up in the crossfire.



Still didn't kill anyone or even have a weapon.

Sorry, but that isn't death penalty worthy.

ETA:

Stop acting like he was Charles Manson with some master plan of carnage. He stayed behind with his hood rat boys and was talking a big game. In the end, he didn't fire a shot, other grown arse men did and chose to be murderers.

He should spend a long fricking time in jail, but he isn't a murderer. He is a dumb crack dealing hoodrat talking shite that isn't a murderer.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 3:06 pm
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Still didn't kill anyone or even have a weapon.


Well, if you read the testimony, he actually may have had a weapon. It was just the dead cops weapon that he pulled before he ran and hid in the neighbors house. The weapon was found right behind him.

But yeah, luring cops to their death isn't death penalty worthy. You can lure them in and know they're going to be massacred. Just as long as you don't pull the trigger, you're good. Got it. To each his own.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Spencer was obviously willing to kill over it,


Take it for what its worth but Spencer said he as asleep and woke up to cops in the apartment with guns drawn and opened fire. If that was the case maybe he wasn't planning on killing over a misdemeanor warrant.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:06 pm to
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Still didn't kill anyone or even have a weapon.


Well, if you read the testimony, he actually may have had a weapon. It was just the dead cops weapon that he pulled before he ran and hid in the neighbors house. The weapon was found right behind him.

But yeah, luring cops to their death isn't death penalty worthy. You can lure them in and know they're going to be massacred. Just as long as you don't pull the trigger, you're good. Got it. To each his own.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:09 pm to
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"If you come in here, we'll frick you up" is a pretty good indicator of what they may have had planned for the police

Yeah, but it kinda ruins the entire ambush narrative.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:09 pm to
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luring cops to their death isn't death penalty worthy.


Luring them? How did he lure them? This was not some elaborate trap. He yelled at them that they'd be fricked up if they came in.

You're being disingenuous. It was a terrible event, but he didn't murder anyone. He's not a good guy, but he's not a murderer.

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Well, if you read the testimony, he actually may have had a weapon. It was just the dead cops weapon that he pulled before he ran and hid in the neighbors house. The weapon was found right behind him.


Ok, so he fired no shots and there is a chance he had a weapon after the fact, but they can't prove that.

Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:09 pm to
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The officers left to go confirm the warrant. Then these thugs planned what they were going to do if the cops returned.


Sorry, but I think it is more feasible that they got into an argument with the cops and once they left they were talking all kind of shite to their friends trying to act like badasses than that they actually sat down and planned to ambush and kill the cops.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:10 pm to
Your first post in this thread was solid as frick, but it’s been pretty frustrating watching you double down to defend this POS after being presented evidence that did not support your initial conclusion
Posted by BugAC
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Member since Oct 2007
57864 posts
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:11 pm to
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In every situation in the history of ever, if something were done differently there would have been a different result.




Yet drugs seems to always end badly.
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