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re: Anyone familiar with case of Nathaniel woods? Set to be executed in murder where he didn’t
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Stop acting like he was Charles Manson with some master plan of carnage. He stayed behind with his hood rat boys and was talking a big game.
This.
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Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:11 pm to TheCaterpillar
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He stayed behind with his hood rat boys and was talking a big game. In the end, he didn't fire a shot, other grown arse men did and chose to be murderers.
He should spend a long fricking time in jail, but he isn't a murderer. He is a dumb crack dealing hoodrat talking shite that isn't a murderer.
Well...somebody just revealed they don't know the legal definition of murderer. (hint: you don't necessarily have to "pull the trigger", or "fire the shot".)
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:14 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Your first post in this thread was solid as frick, but it’s been pretty frustrating watching you double down to defend this POS after being presented evidence that did not support your initial conclusion
I am not defending the guy. I think he's a POS too. I just don't think he should be getting the death penalty. No evidence presented has come close to changing my mind on that.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:16 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Your first post in this thread was solid as frick, but it’s been pretty frustrating watching you double down to defend this POS after being presented evidence that did not support your initial conclusion
Spot on. There are several posters on here that are known to do this, and NEVER back down, faced with facts (not looking at you, LNCHBOX, lol). Mouton and Caterpillar never struck me as those. I'm surprised to see it, they're both pretty solid posters.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:17 pm to Festus
We just have different opinions on who should be put to death. And I'm ok to disagree on that and not get my feathers ruffled.
To each his own.
To each his own.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:24 pm to TheCaterpillar
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evidence presented has come close to changing my mind on that.
Does the fact that he told spencer (the guy with the rifle) hey there's another cop over there, and spencer went and killed him, not make him just as guilty as pulling the trigger himself?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:25 pm to Ryan3232
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I used to smoke pot. So if my buddy would have killed 3 officers while we were both smoking, I should die? Huh??!
Maybe not die but if you helped set up the shooting of the cops, then probably
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:36 pm to The Spleen
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I don't think anyone has claimed he was just an innocent bystander. The issue is using the death penalty in a case where the convicted didn't pull the trigger, or even fire a weapon. Throw his arse in jail for the rest of his life maybe.
So do you think someone who hires a hitman should be spared the death penalty merely because he or she didn't pull the trigger?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:39 pm to TheCaterpillar
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We just have different opinions on who should be put to death.
Fair enough.
But based upon the legal definition of murder, do you believe that Nathaniel Woods is guilty of murder?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:39 pm to mouton
While I agree with the death penalty in theory, I completely disagree with it practically.
Our justice system is too corrupt and makes too many mistakes.
Sounds like this guy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Shouldn’t be executed for that.
Our justice system is too corrupt and makes too many mistakes.
Sounds like this guy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Shouldn’t be executed for that.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:43 pm to memphis tiger
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Sounds like this guy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Shouldn’t be executed for that.
And that's what juries are for. They hear the entirety of the evidence and then decide the facts. I'm sure that hypothesis was presented to, but ultimately rejected by, the jury.
And hearing the evidence, it clearly doesn't seem like "wrong place wrong time." It appears that Mr. Woods was involved in setting these officers up to be executed.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:43 pm to memphis tiger
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Sounds like this guy was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Shouldn’t be executed for that.
He was operating a crack house.
The cops were there to execute a warrant on HIM.
HE lured them into the house so his boy could shoot them.
HE showed his boy where a cop was outside so he could also shoot that cop.
That sound like wrong place wrong time to you?
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:45 pm to TheCaterpillar
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I think he's a POS too. I just don't think he should be getting the death penalty.
That’s fair, I sort of agree - but admittedly, I haven’t read too much about this case
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:47 pm to Ryan3232
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I used to smoke pot. So if my buddy would have killed 3 officers while we were both smoking, I should die? Huh??!
By itself, smoking pot is not a felony so this example was about as dumb as licking a doorknob in china
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:50 pm to Festus
I am not doubling down When I started this thread I was not aware of all the facts. That is why I said " There has to be more to this story right??
I also don't think some hoodrats screaming "F U you pussy as motherfrickers. You think you bad behind that badge . Come in here we will frick u up" constitutes a credible threat of violence or a credible plan of violence. It is hoodrats being loud and trying to act bad.
I don't think Woods "lured" them into an ambush. I think the cops came with the warrant, he went outside talking shite again and when they approached he ran back inside. They followed upon which Spencer woke with a gun in his lap saw officers in the apartment and began firing.
I also don't think some hoodrats screaming "F U you pussy as motherfrickers. You think you bad behind that badge . Come in here we will frick u up" constitutes a credible threat of violence or a credible plan of violence. It is hoodrats being loud and trying to act bad.
I don't think Woods "lured" them into an ambush. I think the cops came with the warrant, he went outside talking shite again and when they approached he ran back inside. They followed upon which Spencer woke with a gun in his lap saw officers in the apartment and began firing.
Posted on 3/5/20 at 3:56 pm to mouton
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I don't think Woods "lured" them into an ambush. I think the cops came with the warrant, he went outside talking shite again and when they approached he ran back inside. They followed upon which Spencer woke with a gun in his lap saw officers in the apartment and began firing.
As the officers were attempting to arrest Woods, Spencer appeared with the rifle and began shooting. Officers Owen and Chisholm were shot multiple times. Woods told Spencer about the officer out front, Bennett, and Spencer shot him multiple times
That kinda blows a hole in your THEORY doesn't it?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 4:10 pm to rooster108bm
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That kinda blows a hole in your THEORY doesn't it?
How so? Do you think the cops entered the apartment with guns drawn? Do you think Spencer was in another room came out , saw the cops and began firing? As Spencer began firing Woods yelled to his homey "there's another one over there!" How does that prove everything was orchestrated?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 4:14 pm to mouton
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As Spencer began firing Woods yelled to his homey "there's another one over there!
You seriously don't see a problem with this?
Posted on 3/5/20 at 4:17 pm to mouton
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I also don't think some hoodrats screaming "F U you pussy as motherfrickers. You think you bad behind that badge . Come in here we will frick u up" constitutes a credible threat of violence or a credible plan of violence. It is hoodrats being loud and trying to act bad.
The threats for violence if an arrest is attempted taken alone might not constitute a credible threat of violence, but coupled with the fact that the police came to arrest Woods and were in fact killed for trying to do so now makes their threat seem pretty damn credible
Posted on 3/5/20 at 4:22 pm to mouton
I don't know if you understand Alabama law but capital murder is premeditated, you know, PLANNED. He was charged and found guilty as an accessory to 3 charges Capital murder, you know PLANNED, and 1 count of attempted murder. He was found guilty of ALL CHARGES by a unanimous jury. He was recommended to be put to death 10-2 by the jury and the judge complied.
This post was edited on 3/5/20 at 4:28 pm
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