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re: Anyone else’s priest read a statement from the Bishop of The Diocese of BR?
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:43 pm to Chef Curry
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:43 pm to Chef Curry
quote:This isn't hard to understand. Politicians see through the lens of politics. The Church sees through the lens of Christ.
TLDR - The diocese is harboring and shilling for illegals.
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Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:44 pm to Chef Curry
MAXIMUM POLITICS
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:45 pm to 904
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Jesus was crucified after "breaking the law" of man himself
Jesus was crucified after the Pharisees demanded it. Herod complied to keep the peace. He even pointed out to the Jewish crowd that Christ had not actually done anything wrong:
quote:
”Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate. But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!” - Matthew 27:23
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:45 pm to Camp Randall
A massive influx of unchecked illegals is a net negative for society. Nothing really political about it.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:47 pm to DesScorp
What crimes has my "illegal" friend committed, being brought across a border as a two year old?
They still shout crucify him.
They still shout crucify him.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:47 pm to Chef Curry
I get why some churches are doing this.
I'm not sure this administration is smart enough to not start kicking in the doors of churches and dragging people out of holy mass.
I'm also pretty sure the Holy Catholic church is right in protecting its members and answerable to God. They didn't create this mess but they have an obligation to Catholics anywhere and everywhere.
But as I have stated in all of these types threads.
If you're not Catholic you're opinion of the Catholic Church doesn't matter. You are not part of it.
If you are Catholic and you have a problem with the way the Catholic Church is ministering to it's body and you complain and discuss it with people who are not in the church then it shows that you are confused and in need of counseling from your priest and/or bishop. Or you're not really in the church and thus your opinion doesn't matter.
I'm not sure this administration is smart enough to not start kicking in the doors of churches and dragging people out of holy mass.
I'm also pretty sure the Holy Catholic church is right in protecting its members and answerable to God. They didn't create this mess but they have an obligation to Catholics anywhere and everywhere.
But as I have stated in all of these types threads.
If you're not Catholic you're opinion of the Catholic Church doesn't matter. You are not part of it.
If you are Catholic and you have a problem with the way the Catholic Church is ministering to it's body and you complain and discuss it with people who are not in the church then it shows that you are confused and in need of counseling from your priest and/or bishop. Or you're not really in the church and thus your opinion doesn't matter.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:52 pm to Chef Curry
Just my opinion:
1. The majority of the illegal immigrants in the country are from Mexico and Central America. The most prominent religion in those countries is Catholicism.
2. Even if (probably) legal and (probably) effective, it does seem to be a little bit distasteful for the "state" to be using people gathering at church as an opportunity to arrest/detain suspected illegal immigrants.
3. The statement from the Bishop seems quite unnecessary and appears to be largely little more than virtue signaling. It's also a small example of what fuels ridicule of the Catholic church by Protestants and other Christian denominations. The Bishop is "granting" relief from the "obligation" to attend church. Was this dispensation authorized by God, Jesus, St. Peter?
In short, I'm not pro-illegal immigration. Laws must be enforced. I just feel there are probably more reasonable means of enforcing the laws than arresting people while attending church (if that is actually happening)
1. The majority of the illegal immigrants in the country are from Mexico and Central America. The most prominent religion in those countries is Catholicism.
2. Even if (probably) legal and (probably) effective, it does seem to be a little bit distasteful for the "state" to be using people gathering at church as an opportunity to arrest/detain suspected illegal immigrants.
3. The statement from the Bishop seems quite unnecessary and appears to be largely little more than virtue signaling. It's also a small example of what fuels ridicule of the Catholic church by Protestants and other Christian denominations. The Bishop is "granting" relief from the "obligation" to attend church. Was this dispensation authorized by God, Jesus, St. Peter?
In short, I'm not pro-illegal immigration. Laws must be enforced. I just feel there are probably more reasonable means of enforcing the laws than arresting people while attending church (if that is actually happening)
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:52 pm to 904
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Jesus was crucified after "breaking the law" of man himself
I don't think he would care about human-made laws, only intent.
Wow this is ignorant.
Jesus was crucified because the Jewish leaders believed his teachings/claims of divinity were heretical, and they pitched it to the Romans that he was claiming to be king of the Jews so they’d crucify him for sedition.
Pilate found no basis for the charge, but the crowd wouldn’t accept that and choose to pardon Barabbas instead so that Jesus would be crucified.
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:53 pm to DesScorp
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This is only a mystery to people whose understanding of Christian teachings springs completely from bumper sticker slogans instead of actually reading scripture.
Or from warped gotcha attempts to push their own worldview and narrative.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:53 pm to Harry Caray
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What crimes has my "illegal" friend committed, being brought across a border as a two year old?
Not having permission to be here, as you well know, and flaunting our laws, arrogantly so (“There are no illegals on stolen land”).
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They still shout crucify him.
They duly deport him to his country of origin, where has has citizenship, you hysterical little girl.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:54 pm to Chef Curry
Just curious, is there any Church guidance for people to not cross borders of other countries illegally?
Seems a lot of these complex legal/moral issues could be avoided if people simply follow the law.
Seems a lot of these complex legal/moral issues could be avoided if people simply follow the law.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:55 pm to Harry Caray
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How would Jesus treat "illegals"?
Very telling how some "Christians" are reacting to this.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:56 pm to DesScorp
quote:He does have legal permission to be here and has been working on the arduous process of naturalization for over a decade. As have many.
Not having permission to be here, as you well know, and flaunting our laws, arrogantly so (“There are no illegals on stolen land”).
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:56 pm to Harry Caray
quote:
What crimes has my "illegal" friend committed, being brought across a border as a two year old?
Illegal entry and crossing of a border.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:56 pm to Snipe
quote:
I'm not sure this administration is smart enough to not start kicking in the doors of churches and dragging people out of holy mass.
I’m not advocating for this.
quote:
I'm also pretty sure the Holy Catholic church is right in protecting its members and answerable to God. They didn't create this mess but they have an obligation to Catholics anywhere and everywhere.
They also have an obligation to follow the laws in the locales in which they do business. If they don’t want to, maybe they should lose their tax exempt status.
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If you're not Catholic you're opinion of the Catholic Church doesn't matter. You are not part of it.
I’m Catholic.
quote:
If you are Catholic and you have a problem with the way the Catholic Church is ministering to it's body and you complain and discuss it with people who are not in the church then it shows that you are confused and in need of counseling from your priest and/or bishop. Or you're not really in the church and thus your opinion doesn't matter.
I’m in need of no such counseling from a priest if they believe it’s ok to have an infusion of millions of unchecked illegals flood our country.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:56 pm to Chef Curry
Well thank God he made me a W.A.S.P
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:56 pm to boxcarbarney
quote:I'm a Catholic but nice try
boxcarbarney
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:57 pm to DesScorp
quote:
Pilate
... and then Pilate gave in to the Jewish leaders to allow him to be crucified because he recognized that Jesus had broken the law by claiming himself as the Son of God, which was taken as opposition to Caesar.
quote:- John 19:7, 15, 16
7 The Jewish leaders insisted, “We have a law, and according to that law he must die, because he claimed to be the Son of God.”
...
“We have no king but Caesar,” the chief priests answered.
Finally Pilate handed him over to them to be crucified.
If Jesus wanted to make sure he wasn't breaking any laws, he wouldn't have proclaimed as such.
Regardless, the Jesus as described in the Bible would not have generalized illegal immigrants as mass rapists, thieves, murderers, etc., and conversely would have offered help, guidance, and forgiveness on an individual by individual basis.
edit: formatting
This post was edited on 12/15/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:57 pm to Harry Caray
quote:
How would Jesus treat "illegals"?
Requiring them to return to their home country is not mistreatment. They can voluntarily go or they can be forced to go. Their call.
Posted on 12/15/25 at 2:58 pm to 904
quote:
Regardless, the Jesus as described in the Bible would not have generalized illegal immigrants as mass rapists, thieves, murderers, etc., and conversely would have offered help, guidance, and forgiveness on an individual by individual basis.
Spoken like a true Christian. 
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