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re: Another blow to the AirBNB model
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:46 am to CatfishJohn
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:46 am to CatfishJohn
They fricked themselves with all the ridiculous fees
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:48 am to Loup
Talking about zoning law as if it’s some huge constitutional issue is fricking hilarious.
A full home Airbnb is taking a residence and converting it into a small business. That’s not some reasonable exercise of property rights.
A full home Airbnb is taking a residence and converting it into a small business. That’s not some reasonable exercise of property rights.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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The person who rents across the street from us (a real rental house, not STR) has been much more annoying with her clientele. Current resident is nice and quiet and it's great. Others have been trash supremes.
How far are you from those new apartments they are building downtown? They are purposely being built for "workforce" housing with 9% of them dedicated to low income.
They are being built on that vacant lot on Bilbo behind KPLC
LINK
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:49 am to yellowfin
quote:No problem for some OT ballers to drop $3-4 million buying out the 2 DSLD houses on either side of theirs, 3 across the street and 3 directly behind them to provide enough of a buffer zone to not be disturbed when the house 4 lots down becomes an AirBNB with a revolving door of renters.
If I didn’t want something next to me I’d buy the property myself
quote:Good. Hopefully your next door neighbor decides to start raising roosters commercially and that the neighbor on the other side turns his residence into a live music bar and grill
I believe if you own land you should be able to do what you want with it
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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My neighbor actually rents out 2 rooms in her house (she modified the 2nd story to be 2 separate units, basically).
She typically has longer term rentals for plant baws on turnaround, so 95% of the time any annoyance is just a loud baw truck coming and going early in the am (which doesn't bother me b/c I'm walking my dogs at that time usually).
We have had some interesting times. Once involving a deaf girl who got drunk with her family and raged and ran down the street screaming. Cops got called after that. Also after Laura a crew of Central Americans were housed in the whole house and they had a party one night. I contacted her and she showed up and shut it down, so she's very respectful of how her tenants act. Those sorts of things are rare, though, so it isn't usually bothersome.
The person who rents across the street from us (a real rental house, not STR) has been much more annoying with her clientele. Current resident is nice and quiet and it's great. Others have been trash supremes.
i'm in a historic district. i live a block away from a a million dollar 7k sf mansion built in the 1800s that is the crown jewel of the neighborhood.
and there's also section 8 housing between us.
i've had some really good section 8 neighbors and bad ones. usually the people themselves aren't that bad, it's the vagrants that come and go that are the issue.
best neighbor i ever had was a weed dealer who wanted to keep a low profile. i'd pay his rent to have him back because he wanted a nice peaceful block where people would pull up, knock, get their weed and go on with their day. amazing amount of young college girls at our private christian school that rolled up there.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:50 am to Draconian Sanctions
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A full home Airbnb is taking a residence and converting it into a small business. That’s not some reasonable exercise of property rights.
It would be an exercise of property rights if it wasn't happening in areas that had been zoned residential for decades prior.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:51 am to stout
quote:Not really, most cities are overwhelmingly majority single family residential. I probably wouldn't be so anti zoning if it was better distributed.
guess it depends on each state. In LA there are tons of communities where you can live and not have restrictions or HOAs. It also depends on what sort of daily commute you want.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:52 am to sidewalkside
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All of you celebrating this...do you understand you're celebrating BIGGER govt? MORE regulation? LESS freedom?
Small government != anarchy
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:53 am to bonescanner
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our government is great at adding regulations. Govern me harder......
Look, I can get behind limiting government regulation. But this isn't really adding regulations in my opinion. This is really just closing a loophole if anything. You'd never get a permit to build an actual BnB or Hotel in most of these locations. Inspections, codes, etc. are all going to be different than typical residential. But many are getting around all of that by using these rental sites.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:55 am to stout
Airbnb restricts housing supply and thus increases average rents. I have no problem with this. Same way I’d have no problem with the government restricting private capital from buying up single family homes
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:58 am to Loup
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land of the free
Do you hate all commercial vs residential zoning?
Posted on 9/6/23 at 8:59 am to stout
We saw the same type of fight with Uber. Cities tried to restrict their growth to protect taxi companies from competition and now they are trying to protect the hotel industry the same way. You can’t stop serious societal changes. Air BnB is no longer the only game in town. Other companies are quickly moving into the business model as well and with that comes serious pressure on state and local governments to adapt. They’ll eventually cave on this just like they did with Uber.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:03 am to JasonDBlaha
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Good. AirBnB’s are scams and do nothing but drive up surrounding property values
quote:you and OweO should have a 'low IQ' off... winner gents to lick the window
by JasonDBlaha
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:06 am to Blizzard of Chizz
quote:Uber and AirBNB are apples and oranges.
We saw the same type of fight with Uber. Cities tried to restrict their growth to protect taxi companies from competition and now they are trying to protect the hotel industry the same way. You can’t stop serious societal changes. Air BnB is no longer the only game in town. Other companies are quickly moving into the business model as well and with that comes serious pressure on state and local governments to adapt. They’ll eventually cave on this just like they did with Uber.
It doesn't have any affect on your neighbors' quality of life when you get a ride from Uber instead of a regular taxi.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:06 am to Sterling Archer
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Airbnb restricts housing supply and thus increases average rents. I have no problem with this. Same way I’d have no problem with the government restricting private capital from buying up single family homes
there is absolutely nothing i hate more than seeing undeveloped land becoming apartments or condos.
i understand it's more "affordable," but you're also taking away what could be single family homes, which by every metric increases stability.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:07 am to NoSaint
I find it funny that conservatives/supporters of capitalism would be a huge fan of zoning. A lot of zoning is completely arbitrary and driven by homeowners who love to complain and/or government officials who are useless.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:08 am to 3nOut
There's plenty of open land to buy out in the country if you aren't happy with apartments or condos being built
Or maybe you should buy the land before it's developed?
Or maybe you should buy the land before it's developed?
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 9:08 am
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:11 am to SuperSaint
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you and OweO should have a 'low IQ' off... winner gents to lick the window
Honestly, Oweo would run circles around Jason. Unfortunately he would use triple the words doing it, though.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:11 am to TheOcean
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find it funny that conservatives/supporters of capitalism would be a huge fan of zoning. A lot of zoning is completely arbitrary and driven by homeowners who love to complain and/or government officials who are useless.
conservatives believe in respecting private property rights and then using the government if others violate that.
if your use of private property rights hurts my private property, then hell yes, i want the government to intercede.
i freely admit that i'm conservative and small government... till I'm not.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 9:16 am to TutHillTiger
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They fricked themselves with all the ridiculous fees
yep. Every time I looked for a bnb these days the "total amount" ends up being double or more of the listing price. Its just straight up dumb, and they should feel like assholes for allowing that.
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