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re: Another blow to the AirBNB model
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:52 pm to Loup
Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:52 pm to Loup
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land of the free
There’s a reason land is zoned a certain way. Taking residential housing and bringing in a bunch of drunk partiers on weeknights is infringing on the neighbors more than not being able to do short term rentals.
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Posted on 9/6/23 at 12:56 pm to stout
Not sure I feel like digging for the thread but a few years back libs were making the same land use, zoning arguments back then and all the conservatives on here called them idiot rentoids that shouldn’t concern themselves with the decisions of landowners to rent their property out short term.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:02 pm to stout
Good. Living by Air BnBs is super fricking annoying. Just brings in trash people who are obnoxious with zero self awareness. A lot of the beach towns by me are now mandating 30 day minimum on any rentals.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:37 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:45 pm to sidewalkside
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All of you celebrating this...do you understand you're celebrating BIGGER govt? MORE regulation? LESS freedom?
Of course they are...they love the idea of government forcing folks to do things that they would force folks to do if they could. It is human nature.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:56 pm to Loup
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land of the free
Nothing to do with the USA. They are having issues with AirBNB's in Ireland too.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 1:59 pm to stout
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Live next to an Airbnb and get back to us. It sucks if you purposely move into a residential-zoned neighborhood only to be disturbed by an Airbnb.
What would suck, as you say, is if the zoning were retroactively changed and you were not compensated in some way...what these municipalities are doing is akin to having a property zoned for industrial use, you buying it, and them changing what they mean by industrial use when you begin to use it in a manner consistent whit its zoning when you bought it. Unless they had an ordinance against short term rentals when you bought the property you failed to do your due dilligence if you did not want to live next door to a short term rental.
Freedom is just another word for nothing else to lose...and every individual's freedom is another individual's freedom being stripped. In this case a persons freedom not to live next door to a short term rental is stripping the owner of that rental of the freedom to rent it.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:02 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Not sure I feel like digging for the thread
Well dig for it, I’d like to see it
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:06 pm to stout
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Airbnb has basically skated around zoning in every incorporated area it operates in. This is basically just a way to get zoning back under control.
If you aren't happy about it then move to an area with no zoning or apply to have your house/area rezoned.
If they put a trash dump in your neighborhood and called it AirT&D and skated zoning laws you wouldn't be OK with it.
SO where has one of these laws gone into effect which was in effect when the Air BnB started and, for whatever reason was ignored buy the authorities, and now all of suddent it is an issue?
I would posit that this is not what has happened at all...I would posit that folks owned property and wanted to be able to rent it from time to time and make a little extra cash. Most of the property owners didnt have a problem, the authorities didn't, and a few property owners didn't like it but what could they do? Some property owners, doing what people do, went a little further and more property owners had a problem...to the point where the latter outnumbered the former and they banded together to change the rules. If you already owned the property before the rules changes are enacted they should not apply to you...its really is that simple. But that won't happen because that does not allow the state to put their foot on someone's throat and it does not allow the state's water barers to tote the water for the state...
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:08 pm to stout
We all win.
It’s fricking up the actual rental market.
It’s driving house prices up.
It hasn’t at all changed hotel prices.
I DO think Counties should define zones where this is allowed or a permit code for it.
Ie..middle of Smokey mountains or select beach condos.
It’s fricking up the actual rental market.
It’s driving house prices up.
It hasn’t at all changed hotel prices.
I DO think Counties should define zones where this is allowed or a permit code for it.
Ie..middle of Smokey mountains or select beach condos.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:13 pm to RealDawg
How many of the TDers bitching about STRs actually use vrbo/airbnb when traveling? I'd bet a good %
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:21 pm to stout
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Do you think it's OK to throw baseballs in a parking lot with cars around?
Compared to what most kids are doing today, absolutely. Hell, I'd have joined in on the catch!
Oh, and I don't give a frick if you think I'm dumb!
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:27 pm to TheOcean
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How many of the TDers bitching about STRs actually use vrbo/airbnb when traveling? I'd bet a good %
I can't speak for others on here, but I personally haven't used one in years, and I've heard similar feedback from plenty of other folks I know that do a lot of traveling. Once it stopped being a cheap place to crash for a night and prices became comparable to a hotel, it kinda defeated the point.
I'd rather just pony up an extra $20 or $30 for a continental breakfast, some privacy, and no ridiculous house rules to follow.
This post was edited on 9/6/23 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:29 pm to HogX
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I'd rather just pony up an extra $20 or $30 for a continental breakfast, some privacy, and no ridiculous house rules to follow.
Not me
Particularly beach vacations where we usually have a private pool and full kitchen
Work trips, strictly hotels. In and out.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:31 pm to stout
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I have news for you if you live in an incorporated area then your neighborhood has already been mandated by the Government.
Of course
Hell I live in a historical zone, I can’t even change my front door out without approval
I also think that’s total horseshite
That said, look, I know where you’re coming from. I don’t love the idea of my neighbors having bachelor parties every weekend. (I live in Nashville).
But on principle alone, if someone buys a property, I just think they should be able to rent it out to whoever they want.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:34 pm to HogX
I feel the same way and it is being spoken of in my travel groups as well. Also after a few superhosts that had broken items/no maintenance on call/or accommodations not cleaned well I quit trusting that designation.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:35 pm to cas4t
quote:I have had much better findings with property management companies than airbnb on this.
Particularly beach vacations where we usually have a private pool and full kitchen
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:44 pm to madamsquirrel
Yes I have stayed at some on the beach, but that is not an R1 neighborhood. That is where it should be restricted. STR is a business, money changes hands. As to restricting a property owner, that already exists. A home owner can't make his home into a bar, restaurant, etc in R1. Restrictions already exist, just need to be enforced.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:46 pm to CORIMA
Agreed. STRs in mixed use/predominantly rental vacation hotel/condo areas are not an issue imo and that option for investment is lucrative without wrecking neighborhoods full of homeowners.
Posted on 9/6/23 at 2:47 pm to Loup
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land of the free
home of the homeless
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