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re: And so it begins - Belle Chasse kids 7-12th will start online

Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:05 am to
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:05 am to
These schools need to open in the Fall and on time....they have to have a plan in place to deal with positive test that does not include closing the whole place down. The bottom line is there will be positive tests for students and teachers....they need to have substitute teachers on retainer. I don't see schools planning for this at all....I think most schools are banking on being closed.

In my mind that would be devastating for schools in general. On the public side in my mind there is no way they could justify not cutting staff if there is no in person school....you simply don't need as many teachers for online learning (aka basically babysitting...especially true in the lower grades). On the private side it would be a much bigger hit because what parent would pay tuition for online learning....it doesn't make sense. There certainly won't be any new Pre-K students starting during a online learning setting...that would be a whole class year where enrollment and thus revenue is down every single year until that class graduates.

They have to figure out a way to open schools in person in August.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26383 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:10 am to
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to keep elementary kids going to school, at least part-time
Part time would be almost as big of a headache for parents as not going to school at all. What do you do when you work full time but your kids are only going to school 2-3 days a week or half days every day?
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
62227 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:10 am to
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High schools online is one thing, but if elementary, middle, pre-K and daycares stay closed all hell will break loose


I guess all hell will break loose in Belle Chasse because this is 7-12.
Posted by Tiger Prawn
Member since Dec 2016
26383 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:14 am to
7th graders are still old enough to stay home by themselves while their parents go to work. The younger grades doing online school means parents won't be able to go to work
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75982 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:16 am to
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It's going to happen in Texas too, we are setting daily records for covid and deaths.


Are we tho?


Google: COVID-19 + Texas + Deaths
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41713 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:17 am to
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They have to figure out a way to open schools in person in August.


I know a number of teachers and admins, and every single one of them want school to open, in person, in august. Online learning is a nightmare when the students have different technology access.

But the schools are also having to deal with state and local orders, and are also having to deal with the fact that this virus exists.

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they need to have substitute teachers on retainer.


Agreed, but most schools have trouble finding subs at all. Sub pay is atrocious, so when they actually find someone who can sub, it's simply a babysitter. That's fine for a day, not for 2 weeks.

Some schools try to get retired teachers to come do "long-term sub assignments", but given how this virus hits older people, I'm not sure that's a good idea.

This just absolutely sucks all the way around, the only way this really "works" is if we just say F it and remove all restrictions, and there is a lot of hesitation to do that, because, you know, death.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75982 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:22 am to
Also, FWIW the American Academy of Pediatrics strongly suggests that schools at all grade levels be physically open this fall (with social distancing measures in place)

COVID-19 Planning Considerations: Guidance for School Re-entry
Posted by ihometiger
Member since Dec 2013
12475 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:24 am to
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There are rumors that St. Bernard will announce something this week


This will be the death-knell to private schools unless they have a large endowment. The Louisiana teachers union is jumping for joy thinking there will be another shutdown.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:28 am to
i support this as long as they build a building where kids can be bused to and spend 7-8 hrs each day gathered in classes by age group and learning ability and then they can supply them with computers to go online to learn under the supervision of teachers
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 10:29 am
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32318 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:29 am to
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Lots of kids did absolutely nothing when the schools shut down

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Can confirm, I work from home and have seen packs of kids just dicking around on a random Tuesday afternoon outside. These kids haven't done any meaningful learning since maybe February.


I did some random work from home in April and I can say every little boy in the neighborhood jumped on their bikes with fishing gear in backpacks and hit the lake intermediately after 12 noon daily.

It looked like a bikers rally coming down the street in droves, racing to get to their fishing spots.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75982 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:32 am to
Also FWIW, based on CDC data reported on mid May, those under the age of 25 are significantly more likely to die from standard influenza than COVID-19.

FREOPP.org: Estimating the Risk of Death from COVID-19 vs. Influenza or Pneumonia by Age

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For this analysis, we averaged the death tolls from influenza and pneumonia from 2007 to 2017 from the CDC’s National Center for Health Statistics. On average, in those 11 years, 172 people per million U.S. residents died of influenza or pneumonia, or roughly 60,000 per year. Based on that analysis, what is striking is that those under the age of 25 are at significantly lower risk of death from COVID-19 than of the flu. Under our assumptions, for example, school-aged children between 5 and 14 have a 1 in 200,000 chance of dying of influenza, but a 1 in 2.5 million chance of dying of COVID-19. For toddlers, the relative risk is even more pronounced. We estimate that Americans between ages 1–4 are 20 times more likely to die of influenza than of COVID-19.


And for the “well, it’s not about the risk of my child dying from COVID, but rather them bringing it home!!!!” You still picking up carry out a couple times a week? you still making runs to Kroger and/or the liquor store? you still shopping at Target from time to time? Still picking up spring/summer yard supplies from Lowe’s or Home Depot? Been occasionally visiting small groups or neighbors/ friends/ family? Or you’ve been completely isolated from the world since early March? That’s what I figured.
This post was edited on 7/1/20 at 10:40 am
Posted by theCrusher
Slidell
Member since Nov 2007
1822 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:41 am to
The teachers who are pushing for this so they can 'work from home' are going to regret this decision. Wait until you have one 9th grade Algebra class with one teacher and online testing. There will also be a need for fewer administrators.

Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
11032 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:43 am to
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St Tammany will be doing the same but won’t be announced until late July.



No they won’t.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86753 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:43 am to
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The teachers who are pushing for this so they can 'work from home' are going to regret this decision.


I don't know a single teacher that is pushing for this

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75982 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:46 am to
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The teachers who are pushing for this so they can 'work from home' are going to regret this decision.


My wife is Core subject teacher - she nor any of her coworkers want to ‘work from home’

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There will also be a need for fewer administrators.


Fantastic. Regardless of online or normal school this fall - this should absolutely happen. Pay the teachers, frick each school having a tons of overpaid administration and assistant principals.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
32318 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:48 am to
This will crush private schools in just one semester. I wouldn't pay private school tuition @ $8,000/semester for a high school kid that can take classes online through the public school curriculum. English is English/Calculus is Calculus why pay out the arse for what you can get for free through your public schools?
Posted by OldSouth
Folsom, LA
Member since Oct 2011
11032 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:49 am to
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The teachers who are pushing for this so they can 'work from home' are going to regret this decision. Wait until you have one 9th grade Algebra class with one teacher and online testing. There will also be a need for fewer administrators.


You’re crazy if you think teachers want this. Online school was a nightmare for them. Remember that a lot of teachers have school aged kids too. So they work all day in front of a computer, go help their own kids with school, and then spend all night grading and prepping lessons for the next day.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:49 am to
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Can confirm, I work from home and have seen packs of kids just dicking around on a random Tuesday afternoon outside. These kids haven't done any meaningful learning since maybe February.


Well shite, the kids have been going to school and coming home with homework since the age of 5. You can't just flip a switch and expect them to be in the frame of mind to do a complete switch. ESPECIALLY the little kids in elementary school.

I agree with you. The work they were sent home with over the last two months of the school year was basically just busy work with the material they would have spent time on in class. We just breezed through everything and got it done so they could get graded. But there was stuff we didn't spend a whole lot of time on.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75982 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:49 am to
Texas announced this week that regardless of the format of public schools this upcoming year, STAR testing will take place.

Teachers, Administrators, Principals, and schools are ranked or held accountable for STAR testing scores - with this news - no one is going to want to “work from home”
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 7/1/20 at 10:51 am to
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You’re crazy if you think teachers want this. Online school was a nightmare for them. Remember that a lot of teachers have school aged kids too. So they work all day in front of a computer, go help their own kids with school, and then spend all night grading and prepping lessons for the next day.
Try working all day in an essential job, and having to punish/threaten to spank/yell at the kids to do a day's worth of work every day. That's after you get home from work and inhale your dinner so you can go to bed at a decent time because homework takes a few hours to complete. I don't feel sorry for the teachers. I feel sorry for those of us who had to work the entire time (not at home, but onsite with no change).
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