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re: American Heart Asso sends rep to oppose Texas bill to eliminate junk food from SNAP
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:51 pm to POTUS2024
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:51 pm to POTUS2024
Junk food is just as or more expensive than healthy food on a long term basis. The long term cost of junk food consumption (future big pharma/medical) far outweighs the slightly more expensive protein and vegetables.
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Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:52 pm to POTUS2024
Serious question: are you an imbecile, biased or both?
Posted on 3/17/25 at 8:53 pm to POTUS2024
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Restrictions on soda don't make much sense, unless you are allowing zero sugar soda.
If I can drink water, the poor can drink water.
The poor and lazy don’t need tax payer funded soda.
This post was edited on 3/17/25 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 3/17/25 at 11:44 pm to Clark14
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I may not care for these programs but they benefit companies who employ people and farmers who supply the food. It’s all a big chain that keeps things flowing.
Cutting out programs don’t just stymie those receiving benefits but hurt the economy and producers when we look at the big picture.
Cutting out aid to other countries hurts producers, especially farmers, as well.
Farmers have been taking a big hit lately due to losing their labor and no this.
The FDA and USDA and affiliated NGOs have been slowly squeezing small time farmers out of the market since their inceptions. They steadily make it more expensive to farm and waste resources like you wouldn't imagine. They produce nothing and are of no long term benefit to anyone.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:25 am to Turnblad85
Yet another example that the medical/health industry as a whole isn't concerned with eliminating any of humans' ailments. They are only interested in treating them. Generally with a drug or treatment program designed to keep the patient docket full. In a business sense it's the perfect model. Work in concert with the cause while pretending to search for a cure. Creating their own clients. Everyone profits.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:46 am to OweO
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They push shite that is not at all good for people's health
Not that sugar is any better, but you're clear that the bulk of the reason the industry shifted to HFCS was because of government set price controls on sugar, you know, for the famers?
The amount of insidious "weighting the scale" done by FedGov through agricultural "help," is off the charts. Everyone wants to point at Perdue, Yum! Brands, etc., but cereal from the 1950s didn't have the same shite as it does now largely for the agricultural policy interference reason.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 7:53 am to Darth_Vader
quote:Not to mention, he is supporting the subsidization of these systems with the side effect of generating a massive health impact, therefore forcing you to subsidize the medical industry as well.
So, in essence you’re for subsidizing the leeches of society and subsidizing the farmers. What about those of us who the government takes half our income that pays for all this subsidizing? What exactly do we get out of this deal?
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:02 am to Froman
Lil Debbie, Doritos, premade cookies, cupcakes, sofa are not food. Those are chemicals.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:39 am to bad93ex
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American Heart Association is CAPTURED
Fixed it for you.
They’ve known about the real impact of sugar on heart disease and cancer for generations but they don’t care because the stakeholders running the show aren’t interested in solving the problem, they’re interested in the business of treating and fundraising heart disease and cancer.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:52 am to Turnblad85
We are speeding ever closer to "Idiocracy" 
Posted on 3/18/25 at 8:57 am to Turnblad85
Biggest hypocrisy?
AHA takes money from Pepsico and Kellogg
or
Pepsico and Kellogg contributing money to AHA
Follow the money down Absurdity Lane.
AHA takes money from Pepsico and Kellogg
or
Pepsico and Kellogg contributing money to AHA
Follow the money down Absurdity Lane.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:28 am to jbgleason
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They push CPR because it saves lives? WRONG. They push it because they get paid every single time someone gets a CPR card at work. They are a scam all the way. Go to one of their CPR Instructor classes and listen to the "Training Center" coordinators explain how much you can make running these classes but don't forget that you have to kick money to the Training Center who kicks money up to AHA. They are like the mob.
^^^ THIS ^^^ 1000%
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:42 am to Dizz
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I will get downvoted a ton but there really is an argument that for many healthier foods are difficult to find. Not just urban areas but I have been to rural Tennessee and Florida where the only store within a 20 minute drive is a family dollar and there is no public transportation. I am all for restriction but some effort has to be made to increase better options.
Of course there are a ton who are just fat and lazy and dont give a shite.
This makes no sense. The places that sell soda and candy also sell bottles of water and other edible things. In fact, retailers will actually pivot to stock shelves with things SNAP covers i.e. not candy and soda.
I live rural adjacent in East Tennessee and am often in rural Tennessee. The Family Dollars and Dollar Generals have bread, eggs, cheese, water, soup, cold cuts (although oscar meyer), etc.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:46 am to Dizz
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I get being upset about it but it's funny we get mad when food stamps are just used to buy crap and then get equally as mad when they are used to buy steak and seafood.
Then how about they just buy the steaks and seafood with their own money and cut out the junk? Why do taxpayers have to pay for someone's steak and seafood while they use their own money for junk?
The intent of "food stamps" is to prevent people from starving to death if they find themselves in a dire situation. They are not meant to provide a lifetime of eating until obesity on the government dole. You cannot be obese and starving.
SNAP needs to be reduced to food boxes almost like we do at Thanksgiving. It takes very few calories every day to not only live, but to thrive. The goal of SNAP should be to keep people alive, but it should never replace a person's desire - outside of the mentally and/or physically incapable - to provide food for themselves. This is a fundamental human need for life and the driver for almost all work.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:52 am to POTUS2024
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If you want to restrict purchases you'll have to increase benefits. Go look at the price of steak and chicken. Even ground beef is expensive. If you have some ground beef and vegetables, I bet you're close to your daily dollar amount on SNAP. That's just one meal.
Maybe it is time to bring back government cheese and other staples instead of providing cash. Doesn't matter if it would be more expensive (probably wouldn't be). Cut 25% of the snap benefits and start providing government bread, cheese, canned meats, canned beans etc. X amount per person in the household.
If you don't like the food? Strive to support yourself somehow and buy something you like.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:56 am to Dizz
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I get being upset about it but it's funny we get mad when food stamps are just used to buy crap and then get equally as mad when they are used to buy steak and seafood.
In that analogy the focus differs from the OP. Then, the debate moves towards disallowing premium or luxury items rather than items for basic sustenance. While healthier than empty calories from snacks and sodas, seafood and steaks aren't economical from the program's perspective and the same nutritional value can be found in much cheaper forms of protien.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 9:57 am to CatfishJohn
There is absolutely no logical argument for including soda and candy in SNAP. None. How we went from government breadlines to subsidizing mass obesity is beyond me.
I don't think we need breadlines like the Great Depression, but SNAP and other welfare food assistance programs should absolutely not include pure sugar or any beverage besides water, milk, and mayyybe some fruit juices that have no additional sugar added (other than specialty things like pedialyte for babies).
I don't think we need breadlines like the Great Depression, but SNAP and other welfare food assistance programs should absolutely not include pure sugar or any beverage besides water, milk, and mayyybe some fruit juices that have no additional sugar added (other than specialty things like pedialyte for babies).
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:23 am to CatfishJohn
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In fact, retailers will actually pivot to stock shelves with things SNAP covers i.e. not candy and soda.
EXACTLY. These stores stock so much junk because their sales are subsidized by the government. This hits the big food corporations where it hurts.
Want your subsidies back? Get rid of all the fake bullshite ingredients in your products.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:42 am to Turnblad85
Come on guys, have a heart, even if it is just one candy bar away from exploding.
Posted on 3/18/25 at 10:43 am to tide06
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Fixed it for you.
They’ve known about the real impact of sugar on heart disease and cancer for generations but they don’t care because the stakeholders running the show aren’t interested in solving the problem, they’re interested in the business of treating and fundraising heart disease and cancer.
Im baffled how people do not understand this.
They also knew Alcohol is worse for you than marijuana and have known for over a 100 years. They also know one is addictive, and the other is not.
Hmm interesting.
These foods, alcohol, etc. are why we have such large medical expenses and why all the organizations that provide the care/insurance do not want these to go away, ever. Its how they make money and pay their employees while lining the executives pockets.
Alcohol abuse is the number one expense if you factor out that it can affect multiple different parts of your body and life, and it does it slowly to bleed you dry.
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