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re: America/LA Prison Population. Explain these numbers in as non-partisan way as possible

Posted on 6/18/20 at 1:24 am to
Posted by BeepNode
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2014
10005 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 1:24 am to
The criminal "justice" system is a huge industry. Our war on drugs really drives it because a lot of times people fight the police because they are afraid of getting arrested for drugs and there's a lot of police interactions and potential for things to go sideways that are due to fighting the war on drugs.

Why do you think sheriff departments often oppose legalization of marijuana? You think they're really that worried about a bunch of pot heads causing havoc?
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 1:27 am to
Preach
Posted by rrarr
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2016
276 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 1:33 am to
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Preach


In the most basic terms.. we could really use the revenue from taxation. Funnel a billion dollars to LSU. Build something remarkable.

Edit* spelling / formatting
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 1:39 am
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29134 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 1:37 am to
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Right. The line between being a felon and not is pretty thin. You can be a felon for writing a bad check. Also, once you’re a felon, you’re kind of fricked. You probably had to pay for a lawyer, so your savings is gone. You didn’t have a real job in prison so you can’t replenish it. You likely lost your house or whatever else you owned. Oh, and you can’t get a decent job because you’re felon and no one wants to hire a felon. For the record, I am WELL aware that there are just shite bags out there who deserve to be in prison. I just think that once you serve your sentence, that record should not destroy your ability to have a decent life. But that’s getting off topic.
Also, locking up more men for longer periods ensures a new generation of criminals will grow up in fatherless households.
Posted by rrarr
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2016
276 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 1:40 am to
I mean who gives a frick about a person's past anyway? Talk about spooky: my shitbag brain is responsible for the mechanism used to protect data at rest with SWIFT compliant transaction systems. Dont judge a book by its cover.
Posted by wasteland
City of peace
Member since Apr 2011
5923 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 1:41 am to
Land of the free and war on drugs
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28387 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:33 am to
Yep, and if you already have no safety net those things compound even more
Posted by Bengalbio
Member since Feb 2017
2219 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:38 am to
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The war on drugs


The US has also exported this war on drugs to Central and South America... fueling immigration to the US where the policy began.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42797 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:53 am to
Yeah it’s called welfare and it’s the incentivizing of fatherless homes through it. If boys don’t have a father present in their Ives, they won’t know how to actually act like a man
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 6:54 am
Posted by TitleistProV1X
Member since Nov 2015
3657 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:54 am to
I’d really like to see some statistics on percentages of people locked up solely for drugs. Is it between 5-10%, 10-20%, or even higher?

The tough part is a lot of the criminals in New Orleans are released very quickly and are back on the streets getting busted again. We need prisons but we need to have the right people in there.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
37493 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:54 am to
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it just seems like a huge negative for everyone, yet somehow continues to exist




Because it’s not a huge negative for politicians, police departments, and prisons.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
28387 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:57 am to
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I’d really like to see some statistics on percentages of people locked up solely for drugs. Is it between 5-10%, 10-20%, or even higher?


seems to be 46%
LINK
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 6:58 am
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42797 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 6:58 am to
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Yep, and if you already have no safety net those things compound even more


We destroyed the safety net when we incentivized divorce, out of wedlock children, and gave into the feminist lie that men and women are the same. We are equal in terms of importance but we are still different.

Telling a mother should could fulfill the role of both parents is what is destroying our country.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28120 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:09 am to
I can explain Louisiana.

States ranked by murder rate:



Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125159 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:12 am to
The average person is painfully naive if they think our a significant number of our prison population wouldn’t just be in there for something else
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:13 am to
War on drugs.

Mental health wards were deemed inhumane so we use the prison system to treat.

Mediocre k-12 education in conjunction with single-parent households dominating the lower socioeconomic classes.

Posted by Gee Grenouille
Member since Jul 2018
8544 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:19 am to
Until more people understand the value of therapy over the euphoria they feel when they punish someone, we will continue to punish way more than we help.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17755 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:20 am to
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Lotta a-holes live here..


thats an understatement... but i dont think its 3x worse than everywhere else


Single parent homes living in poverty where many times the “parent” is too young or too addicted to actually raise a kid right.

Piss poor public education can’t overcome the overwhelming number of unguided kids who have come to idolize the wealth their local street dealer attained.

Kids angry at the cards life dealt them, see dealing/gangs as their only means to lift themselves out of poverty.

This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 7:21 am
Posted by Kankles
Member since Dec 2012
6169 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:21 am to
We like what we like
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91874 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 7:27 am to
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The average person is painfully naive if they think our a significant number of our prison population wouldn’t just be in there for something else


I think you're under selling how impactful the war on drugs truly is. It's a driving factor behind many other crimes.
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