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re: America has the highest per capita incarceration rate in the world - Cause?

Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:56 pm to
Posted by 4LSU2
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:56 pm to
Absence of fathers in the homes.
Posted by danilo
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:56 pm to
Because we had slaves over 150 years ago. It caused Jamal to sell crack in 2017.
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:57 pm to
The last quote is actually interesting. White Europeans colonized a huge geographic area all over the globe. You have to be pretty violent to do that when you consider that humans are a violent species in general.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Louisiana
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:57 pm to
Dindu nuffins with no parenting.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:57 pm to
Saudi Arabia executed 82 people in 2019 for possession of narcotics. But their incarceration rate per capita is low.
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:57 pm to
War on drugs & mental institutions being closed
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:57 pm to
There's a whole industry set up to be paid for every person pulled over, charged, convicted, sentenced, and "rehabilitated".

Of course they are going to maximize profits by doing what they can to stay in business.

Police, judges, lawyers, prisons, bail bondsmen, MADD, dept of corrections, govt workers, etc all have a vested interest in keeping the current war on drugs going.
Posted by oleheat
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:57 pm to
Well, we have a lot of shite bags, here- plus China thins the herd more than we do.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:58 pm to
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you took DARE a little too seriously in school
I would say she is right, with a simple edit

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most people arrested for drugs aren’t sitting at home doing drugs peacefully and minding their own business. They’re robbing, murdering, raping, and committing other crimes while on drugs or to get money to buy drugs.
Exceptions, sure. But its pretty easy to do drugs and never be arrested. Most of the time, those arrested were being idiots/criminals in other capacities


I would like to see this as a law: drugs are legal. However, if you are committing a crime while doing drugs/on drugs, there is a modifier for your punishment
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 3:02 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 2:59 pm to
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The War on Drugs. Thanks, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton--thanks Republicans AND Democrats--for foisting on us one of the world's great policy failures.



Not as much drugs as you would think

Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:00 pm to
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One thing that I find baffling about the war on drugs is that it seems like one of the few issues that the average American on either side of the political fence can agree on. I don't know if it is the prison lobby, prescription drug lobby, or something else that is keeping it going. It just seems like the pros far outweigh the cons of ending the war on drugs.


A few years ago when I looked, the groups that donated the most to anti-drug legalization efforts were private prisons, police unions, alcohol companies, tobacco companies, and pharmaceutical companies.

Just to answer your question
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:01 pm to
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Not as much drugs as you would think
So only 1.6% of inmates are incarcerated because of drugs


So, that clearly seems to be a false narrative at this point


ETA: 16%, NOT 1.6%
This post was edited on 6/16/20 at 3:18 pm
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:02 pm to
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But its pretty easy to do drugs and never be arrested. Most of the time, those arrested where being idiots/criminals in other capacities


I would like to see this as a law: drugs are legal. However, if you are committing a crime while doing drugs/on drugs, there is a modifier for your punishment


I'm all in
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:03 pm to
thats a frickton of people locked up that haven't been convicted
Posted by Joshjrn
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:03 pm to
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So only 1.6% of inmates are incarcerated because of drugs


How did you come up with that number? Note that the chart is split by types of facilities, so drugs are listed multiple times.

Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:04 pm to
I dont care what anyone says.......


STOP BREAKING THE LAW......

It’s not that hard to understand..... if anyone doesn’t like the laws in this country then go live somewhere else............. But wait.... some can’t do that cause they won’t get free shite anymore.......
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:04 pm to
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thats a frickton of people locked up that haven't been convicted


Monetary bond is a motherfricker.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
33457 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:05 pm to
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I dont care what anyone says.......


STOP BREAKING THE LAW......

It’s not that hard to understand..... if anyone doesn’t like the laws in this country then go live somewhere else............. But wait.... some can’t do that cause they won’t get free shite anymore.......


So... what's your answer to my question as to the cause, relative to other countries?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:05 pm to
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So only 1.6% of inmates are incarcerated because of drugs


So, that clearly seems to be a false narrative at this point


I get 15%
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112637 posts
Posted on 6/16/20 at 3:05 pm to
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I dont care what anyone says.......


STOP BREAKING THE LAW......
Jesus christ
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