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re: Amateur internet sleuths broke the Wuhan lab story. This is how they did it.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 2:59 pm to chew4219
Posted on 6/3/21 at 2:59 pm to chew4219
The time is coming when the global elite will no longer need taxpayers to live a life of luxury. AI/ robots will provide everything they need. Unemployment will be 100%.
Only problem is we outnumber them millions to one. For now.
That's where bioweapons come in. When the time is right they will unleash a true global pandemic to reduce the population to near extinction and destroy any chance of resistance. One for which they, alone, have the vaccination.
Covid-19 was a test run. We were always a means to an end, never forget that.
Only problem is we outnumber them millions to one. For now.
That's where bioweapons come in. When the time is right they will unleash a true global pandemic to reduce the population to near extinction and destroy any chance of resistance. One for which they, alone, have the vaccination.
Covid-19 was a test run. We were always a means to an end, never forget that.
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Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:00 pm to Abstract Queso Dip
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"China has been working very hard to contain the Coronavirus. The United States greatly appreciates their efforts and transparency. It will all work out well. In particular, on behalf of the American People, I want to thank President Xi!"
-Donald Trump
January 20th 2020
Personal theory: Trump knew better, but he/his staff were so fixated on re-election that they viewed everything through that lens. In this quote he wanted to project a sense of “everything is under control, we’re handling it”.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:02 pm to Bullfrog
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I don’t know what gas lighting means in this context.
It means they run daily propaganda designed to convince you that if you believe anything other than what they’re telling you, then you must be crazy, or a political radical, etc
i.e. the problem is not the info they’re peddling; the problem is the people who don’t believe it.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:08 pm to Pettifogger
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We're really in uncharted territory as a society/culture. I think people look at the Holocaust (no I'm not comparing this substantively to the Holocaust) and go "well with the advancements and technology, nobody could be led to ignore what was happening or believe it wasn't." But with all of our science and tech, this incident has the potential to show just how vulnerable we are to political, pride and identity based groupthink even in the age of the expert.
Anyone minimizing this incident is insane. Covid touched every single aspect of society and clearly will be the defining incident for this country since 9/11.
The layers that are impacted on all of this are astounding.
A faction of the government actively spread falsehood as fact and denied the possibility of an alternative.
Journalism which is supposed to be a "check" on power and propaganda from the government, actively participated in propaganda and silencing opposition. Once the outcome they wanted was secured they straight up changed the past (look at Wash post editing year old headlines in the last week or two)
Science (which is most troubling of all) which is supposed to seek one thing about all else-fact and truth- actively participated in any cover up and was the shield by which the above agencies hid behind.
This is the stuff of totalitarian dictatorships. Literal 1984 type stuff.
How can anyone trust our institutions now? For anyone to be ok on this kind of stuff shows how deep the brainwashing goes.
The troubling thing is wondering what else have they done this on whether its covid or anything else.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:22 pm to Klark Kent
quote:Most likely this. Muh narrative...muh narrative...
work suppressed if it doesn’t fit the narrative?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:23 pm to paperwasp
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This is a very well-written article, but honestly that one paragraph stood out to me too as being poorly worded.
I think it was intentional. In the paragraph immediately before that one, the article says:
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For a long time, Daszak was astonishingly influential. Few in the media questioned him or pointed out that his career and organization would be deeply damaged if it turned out his work had indirectly played a role in the pandemic. His unwitting accomplice was Donald Trump, who embraced the theory, turning what should have been a scientific question into a political one.
In that paragraph, they linked to Donald Trump's April 30 press conference where he stated that the virus came from China, that it probably came from a lab, and that China could have stopped the virus and it seems they chose not to do that. LINK None of that is political, and all of that is true, but this article seems to indicate those are political statements. There is no political end to criticizing China. If we have politicians who aren't critical of China, then we need to be very concerned about those people.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:28 pm to imjustafatkid
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In that paragraph, they linked to Donald Trump's April 30 press conference where he stated that the virus came from China, that it probably came from a lab, and that China could have stopped the virus and it seems they chose not to do that. LINK None of that is political, and all of that is true, but this article seems to indicate those are political statements. There is no political end to criticizing China. If we have politicians who aren't critical of China, then we need to be very concerned about those people.
This
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:36 pm to Klark Kent
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There’s no young hungry journalist out there willing to break a unprecedented story to make a name? Are they all that willing to follow the narrative from the top? Or is there work suppressed if it doesn’t fit the narrative?
They get beat up by antifa
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:40 pm to RidiculousHype
They would’ve taken the opposite position of Trump on any issue he chose because that’s all that mattered to those making the decisions behind the scenes.
The use of bioweapons by a foreign power which claimed hundreds of thousands of American lives was acceptable to those in power if it meant getting rid of Trump.
If that doesn’t tell you who these people are at base and what they are capable of nothing will ever open your eyes (setting aside the coastal nobodies who are just along for the ride).
The use of bioweapons by a foreign power which claimed hundreds of thousands of American lives was acceptable to those in power if it meant getting rid of Trump.
If that doesn’t tell you who these people are at base and what they are capable of nothing will ever open your eyes (setting aside the coastal nobodies who are just along for the ride).
Posted on 6/3/21 at 3:51 pm to tide06
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The use of bioweapons by a foreign power which claimed hundreds of thousands of American lives was acceptable to those in power if it meant getting rid of Trump.
Yep. This article makes it seem clear that China knew from the beginning what was going on here. The fact that the WIV removed their online database PRIOR to the outbreak is very telling.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:22 pm to paperwasp
DRASTIC should see what they can dig up on Ivermectin.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:29 pm to Klark Kent
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There’s no young hungry journalist out there willing to break a unprecedented story to make a name? Are they all that willing to follow the narrative from the top? Or is there work suppressed if it doesn’t fit the narrative?
There’s no money to pay journalists for this type of investigation anymore. The money is in inflammatory partisan reporting that CNN, Foxnews, CNBC, etc. spew out there everyday.
Foxnews changed the business. When they started CNN had an extremely expensive worldwide left wing news organization. Foxnews took half their customers with a glitzy set, a partisan right wing perspective, and some anchors you’d want to sleep with.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 4:56 pm to Penrod
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There’s no money to pay journalists for this type of investigation anymore. The money is in inflammatory partisan reporting that CNN, Foxnews, CNBC, etc. spew out there everyday.
Disagree.
I believe there is still a market for impartial investigative journalism, the problem is the corporations that own the current outlets and pay for advertising don’t want that type of narrative disruption so you just get agit prop dressed up as news.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:14 pm to imjustafatkid
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This article makes it seem clear that China knew from the beginning what was going on here.
Most certainly, considering that they were working on these viruses as early as 2012.
Their further actions to conceal this fact does not afford them with a high level of trust afterwards.
I wonder how broad of an effort they made to do so?
It's interesting that the article mentions The Seeker's extremely high-karma Reddit account was "promptly suspended permanently" after he posted this theory there.
In 2019, Chinese tech giant Tencent famously invested $150 million in Reddit.
Too much of a reach, or could they have had some sway in quashing that narrative?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:17 pm to paperwasp
I think that anyone with an IQ over 100 knew this came from the Wuhan lab from the beginning. The only question I've had is what are the geopolitical implications when this truth is accepted. What consequences will China face and how will they react?
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:54 pm to paperwasp
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Of course, the only reason Ribera has had to perform such Sherlockian feats is because the WIV has not shared the data investigators have asked for. The WIV maintained a database on its website with all the data on the viruses in its collection, including the many unpublished ones, but that page on its website has been empty for some time. When asked about the missing database in January 2021, Shi Zhengli explained that it had been taken offline during the pandemic because the WIV web server had become the focus of online attacks. But once again, DRASTIC poked holes in this explanation: the database was taken down on September 12, 2019, shortly before the start of the pandemic, and well before the WIV would have become a target.
Other databases yielded other clues. In the WIV's grant applications and awards, The Seeker found detailed descriptions of the Institute's research plans, and they were damning: Projects were underway to test the infectivity of novel SARS-like viruses they'd discovered in human cells and in lab animals, to see how they might mutate as they crossed species, and to genetically recombine pieces of different viruses—all being done at woefully inadequate biosecurity levels. All the elements for a disaster were on hand.
Holy shite. If it's not obvious by now that China and the Wuhan Institute of Virology released COVID - either by accident or on purpose - to everyone paying attention, then you must be an idiot.
It's becoming clear as day what truly happened, and the Chinese deserve much more than a light scowl from other countries like they're getting currently. What they did was worthy of massive repercussions, but that would require some balls from our political class.
It's ridiculous what they've been allowed to get away with here
Posted on 6/3/21 at 5:57 pm to cable
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What consequences will China face
None. The CCP owns most western democracy politicians and media.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 6:09 pm to RazorBroncs
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the Chinese deserve much more than a light scowl from other countries like they're getting currently. What they did was worthy of massive repercussions, but that would require some balls from our political class.
I think for this to happen, it would require some pressure on the world stage, and not just us going it alone.
Posted on 6/3/21 at 7:07 pm to imjustafatkid
I’m not following. I don’t understand why the article is calling Trump an accomplice in that context. That’s the only part of the article that confused me.
This post was edited on 6/3/21 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 6/3/21 at 8:00 pm to Klark Kent
Simple explanation: OMB and “rayciss” conservatives = the enemy. Must crush them at any cost... even if that means lying and abandoning journalistic integrity or ethics. It’s for the team. For “the greater good.” It had to be done.
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