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re: Am I the only one who thinks this new City of SG is turning into a large cluster frick?

Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134941 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:46 pm to
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I submit to you that if the thugs got more and more brazen out here the Sheriff would have to react anyway, right?
Like this morning...??

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Two people were injured in a shooting on Coursey Boulevard early Sunday morning, according to the East Baton Rouge Sheriff's Office.

The shooting happened at Coursey Boulevard and Jones Creek Road around 2 a.m. after deputies received a complaint of individuals in two vehicles shooting at each other.

Shortly after deputies arrived, EBRSO was informed two adult males who suffered gunshot wounds in the arm and leg as a result of the shooting went to the hospital. The severity of those injuries is currently unknown.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42651 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:51 pm to
Yes, it’s alarming the way gangs are taking over the parish.

We have a huge crime problem and it’s getting worse.

It has nothing to do with SG and everything to do with our law enforcement agencies, our Mayor, our Sheriff, our DA, our judges and the people that enable these gangs to thrive in their neighborhoods.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12850 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:53 pm to
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Or you could say 80+% didn’t vote against it.

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You could say that but you'd be wrong if you did.

Of the 86,000 residents of StG, 14,871 of them DID vote against incorporation.

…So you’re saying ~71k (~83%) didn’t vote against it, but somehow that makes him wrong?
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134941 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:55 pm to
You're right...WAFB said that and WAFB was wrong. Another reason I never watch WAFB news.

Everyone with a brain knew that incorporating a new city did not change any school attendance zones because the EBRSS is a parish wide system outside of the incorporated area of Zachary, Baker and Central.

School attendance zones would change only if and when a StG ISD was created. And that is a totally separate issue from incorporating a new city.
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27778 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:57 pm to
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I don’t know the fine details, but the 2% sales tax already exists & has been collected by the city-parish government from residents of the parish (including St. George) and used to fund public services. I’d imagine they’re voting to have this go to St. George rather than to the city-parish. That’s how it was explained in the article I read last week.
So its really a vote to transfer existing taxes to the citizens that actually pay that tax. Sounds like an easy vote to me. They should label the election "a vote to transfer our money back to us"
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10620 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:57 pm to
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I’m wondering if the businesses who annexed, when they’re waiting forever for BRPD to show up and work a shooting will regret their decision. Had they not left, they could have called EBRSO or the newly formed SGPD. Now they’re left up to whatever spares BR feels like sending.


BR’s borders around the mall and the shops off Seigan seem to box in a few businesses and apartments that don’t seem to be part of the city. I don’t know whose choice that was outside of I am sure BR didn’t want the apartments.

I am also interested in what the plan was or still is for that that long and narrow meandering piece of StG that kind of follows the river up to creating a very small shared boundary with Central.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
Member since May 2021
7669 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:59 pm to
I'd find that hard to believe. I'm not sure how much the split will affect us, but we are down the road from a StG fire department that services our neighborhood.

I just don't see how you can be in a public school district of technically a different city. That would be like going to Dutchtown/Prairieville because you live on Airline Hwy a few blocks from the city line.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134941 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 4:59 pm to
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…So you’re saying ~71k (~83%) didn’t vote against it, but somehow that makes him wrong?
Math are hard.

What I posted was...
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Only about 20% of the residents of St George (17,422 out of 86,000) voted to incorporate a new city. That means about 80% of its residents didn't vote in favor of it.


Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 5:02 pm to
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Everyone with a brain knew that incorporating a new city did not change any school attendance zones
I agree with this, but you are dealing with the overall electorate. They typically don’t know anything other than what the news tells them.

There were definitely groups against St George that were either insinuating or even flat out saying that kids wouldn’t be able to go to EBRSS.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 5:03 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
105316 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 5:04 pm to
So will the daily Baton Rouge shitshow thread be replaced by the daily St George shitshow thread? Or can the two shitshows coexist on tOT>
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
20745 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 5:05 pm to
And then the retort was over 80% didn't vote against it. Since only 14,871 (17.29%) did vote against it, that means 82.71% did not vote against it.

And you said that was wrong. So I guess like you said

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Math are hard.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12850 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:02 pm to
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Math are hard.

You: Only 17k of 86k people in St. George voted for incorporation. About 80% of residents did not vote in favor of it.

Someone else: Yeah but over 80% didn’t vote against it either.

You: Wrong. 14k voted against it.

Apparently math, indeed, “are hard.”
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:04 pm to
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BR’s borders around the mall and the shops off Seigan seem to box in a few businesses and apartments that don’t seem to be part of the city. I don’t know whose choice that was outside of I am sure BR didn’t want the apartments.


Which is illegal, by the way.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17699 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:14 pm to
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like removing this Council on Aging tax from our property tax bill we are forced to pay?

You should probably familiarize yourself with the difference in parish and city taxes.

BREC, EBRPSS (minus Zachary, Central, and Baker), CoA, are all Parish taxes. There's nothing St. George can do about them. Except the school system one once a school district is formed.

Eta: Also a reason why it will be hard to make cuts for City Hall. Cats (BR and Baker only), CoA, BREC, and the library system are all "self-funded" through dedicated property taxes and do not receive funding from the CP government so Broome and Co. will not be able to slash funding there
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 6:51 pm
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11072 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:21 pm to
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That goes for jorconalx as well.



You’re just mad that the people of stg put their money where their mouth is and actually took a stand. Oh, and you can go frick yourself
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17699 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:28 pm to
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support an Independent School District (ISD) - but not willing to raise more taxes. We have enough taxes already that should be paying for an ISD.

Milages for a new ISD would likely be at least on par with Zachary which is about 50% higher than EBRPSS (67.2 vs 43.45).
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17699 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:37 pm to
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I’m still trying to figure out the ramifications of St. George,

School system aside since that's down the road.

St. George will be taking control of sales tax which previously went to the Parish general fund. The general find was used to pay for BRPD and BRFD ($175 million). So City Hall will have to immediately figure out how to keep BRPD and BRFD afloat since they're losing a huge chunk of the funding that previously went to them.

I don't remember the exact numbers but I think EBR is losing $50 million out of the $375 million general fund.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 6:38 pm
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7270 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:38 pm to
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BREC, EBRPSS (minus Zachary, Central, and Baker), CoA, are all Parish taxes. There's nothing St. George can do about them. Except the school system one once a school district is formed.


The current millages that go to EBRPSS that will be redirected to a St. George ISD will more than cover a new district.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17699 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:44 pm to
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But just to bring the number of deputies up to the number of BRPD officers based on population the sheriff is going to have to add approximately 250 additional deputies or if the same ratio of deputies per square mile as Baton Rouge has is desired, the sheriff will have to add approximately 450 additional deputies.

But no new taxes will be needed

Aren't sheriff offices funded with state funds? I never read it the funds had to be approved by the legislature or if the Governor can do it himself.

eta: Apparently not. Mostly funded from sales tax and grants it appears.
This post was edited on 7/1/24 at 9:53 am
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3984 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 6:49 pm to
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I read that Max Himmel (appointed to new City of SG Council) promised NO NEW TAXES for City of SG. I like this guy already. Just saying. He seems like my kind of guy to run a new city.


Hi Max
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