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re: Am I the only one who thinks this new City of SG is turning into a large cluster frick?

Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:24 am to
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:24 am to
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Looks to me to be an additional 2% tax on top of the tax we already pay?


You are an absolute dumb frick.

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The council is scheduled to meet Thursday night and hopes to set a Dec. 7 election to tap into a 2 percent sales tax currently dedicated to the parish.
Wbrz
Posted by PhiTiger1764
Lurker since Aug 2003
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:27 am to
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Looks to me that you are incorrect and a troll wanting to confuse voting on the ballot in an attempt to keep the currently collected 2% sales tax under parish control (i.e. city of Baton Rouge controlled)

Look he may be incorrect but the article in the Business Report the other day phrased it as though it was a new 2% tax on top of what we already pay.

As a St. George resident reading that was concerning. St. George leaders ought to clear it up.

ETA: fortunately it appears WBRZ provided some clarity
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 10:29 am
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:31 am to
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What is wrong with the current UDC and Future BR Plan? which is way more advanced than City of Central - which is poorly written and looks like the rudimentary zoning plan BR had in early 1990s before Central broke away to form its own city.


This also proves you are a dumb frick. The BR UDC is absolute garbage.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28598 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:31 am to
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These new appointed leaders of SG are already proposing a new 2% Sales Tax for Dec 7th election? (LINK ) Is this a new 2% tax on top of the taxes we already pay? Or will it replace existing taxes? And how about reducing our property taxes? like removing this Council on Aging tax from our property tax bill we are forced to pay?

As I and others have mentioned several times, taxes are the key to St. George. To build out a new town infrastructure requires money. Money comes from taxes. Conservative voters always think taxes should be cut. It is a natural conflict.

On the other hand, the vision of St. George as a better municipality separate from EBR means that money will have to be spent. A lot of money. And that means significantly higher taxes for the build. While this isn't an increase, an increase will have to come.

If you want a better town, with better schools, better facilities, better services and better government, you have to pay for it. It's really that simple.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 10:34 am
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:36 am to
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I told you so...


It’s not a new or added tax. It’s the existing 2% sales tax currently being collected by the parish that had been helping to prop up the city of BR. In order for the transition district to transfer the taxing authority to the future elected govt of StG the sales tax has to be put on a ballot. It’s a vote required by the state even though no additional taxes are being added.

So you told us nothing…

I guess Better Together and One BR are going to form a no new taxes group and hope to take advantage of voter ignorance just like tried to take advantage of it with breakaway city and succession claims.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:47 am to
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Look he may be incorrect but the article in the Business Report the other day phrased it as though it was a new 2% tax on top of what we already pay.



Who founded the Business Report? And was this person for or against St George incorporating?

I don’t even live in BR so don’t read it all the time, but it has been obvious how biased the Business Report has been again St George.

Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134660 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:49 am to
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has always been my biggest concern since the city annexed the Siegen Ln corridor.


Can St. George annex things back?
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Member since Aug 2019
11708 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:49 am to
So then vote out the appointees in the regular election if they start off proposing stupid shite.
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2601 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:01 am to
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if you want a better town, with better schools, better facilities, better services and better government, you have to pay for it. It's really that simple.

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that means significantly higher taxes for the build.

Or... just keep the excess tax dollars from StG that were funding BTR inner city projects. That's been one of the main rationales for the whole thing, as you and the other "I'm just asking questions" trolls know very well.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 11:03 am
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:01 am to
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Can St. George annex things back?
Kind of. St. George can annex unincorporated areas (by their request). An area in Baton Rouge can request to be unincorporated from Baton Rouge and then once they are unincorporated they can request to annexed.

Neither St. George nor Baton Rouge can annex directly from the other.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 11:02 am
Posted by Capitalist
Member since May 2014
159 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:05 am to
Okay. Thanks for clarification. So this proposed 2% tax to replace 2% existing tax currently going to BR City, not a new tax. No new taxes - fine. - yay - good, let's hope.
Posted by Capitalist
Member since May 2014
159 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:09 am to
City of SG is not supported by all Conservatives. There are many Conservatives skeptical about this new duplication of city government. This is not a "Liberal vs Conservative" issue like Woody Jenkins stated so in his newspaper. Keep in mind only 54% of the people in SG voted for this, that means 46% voted against it too.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134941 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:16 am to
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It’s not a new tax
Anybody know what happens if the StG voters vote down the proposition? (There might be just enough low information voters who believe the 2% sales tax transfer is actually a new, additional sales tax so they vote no. )

Does it mean the 2% sales tax stays with Baton Rouge or does it mean the 2% sales tax goes away completely?

In either case, how will StG fund its operations since the 2% sales tax was the largest funding source in their budget?
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11072 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:22 am to
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Looks to me to be an additional 2% tax on top of the tax we already pay


Nope
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
10220 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:32 am to
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City of SG is not supported by all Conservatives. There are many Conservatives skeptical about this new duplication of city government. This is not a "Liberal vs Conservative" issue like Woody Jenkins stated so in his newspaper. Keep in mind only 54% of the people in SG voted for this, that means 46% voted against it too.
Because groups (just like you) spread disinformation and insisted that if people vote for it they are racisit. Then your group threatened people’s kids with being immediately be ripped out of the magnet schools. Guess what? That never happened.

Now your group has moved on to providing disinformation about this tax. And once you have been proven wrong on this you will move on to something else.
Posted by Capitalist
Member since May 2014
159 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:34 am to
I support an Independent School District (ISD) - but not willing to raise more taxes. We have enough taxes already that should be paying for an ISD.

And yes, I am concerned about overzealous HOA's via the Federation of Greater Baton Rouge Civic Associations taking over this city with mandatory neighborhood dues and busy bodies telling me what to do with my own property. No more Crime Prevention Districts or Taxing Districts - enough already and I definitely do not want one in my neighborhood. I pay enough property taxes and pay for police protection already.

I like the Future BR Plan and current BR Unified Development Code (UDC) we already have in place for zoning and do not want to see our zoning code change to something rudimentary like what City of Central has. Anyone can go online and compare.

And again, Why the need to hire an Assistant Attorney to operate Planning and Zoning? Why not someone in Urban Design with a degree in Architecture? Seems like they ready to start hitting property owners with real strict property regulations and lawsuits.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 7:59 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134941 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:36 am to
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Then your group threatened people’s kids with being immediately be ripped out of the magnet schools. Guess what? That never happened.

That would happen only if StG creates its own independent school district.

No one ever said StG students would not be eligible to attend EBR School System schools as soon as a new StG city was established.
Posted by Trapped in time
Member since Mar 2023
603 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:46 am to
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No one ever said StG students would not be eligible to attend EBR School System schools as soon as a new StG city was established.


I’m still trying to figure out the ramifications of St. George, but it appears they don’t want to pay taxes to the parish, but still want to attend the better (magnet) parish schools.

Posted by Broken Arrow
Member since Dec 2007
8434 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 11:53 am to
Your post seems to be a lot of opinion with little to no fact.
Posted by HouseMom
Member since Jun 2020
1933 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 12:00 pm to
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54% of the people in SG voted for this


does not mean

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that means 46% voted against it too.
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