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re: Am I the only one who thinks this new City of SG is turning into a large cluster frick?

Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:03 am to
Posted by White Bear
Homeless
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:03 am to
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Looks to me to be an additional 2% tax on top of the tax we already pay?
just go to battin rouge to shop.
Posted by Capitalist
Member since May 2014
159 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:13 am to
If we add another 2% Sales Tax, our sales tax will be like 14%.

Let's raise your taxes so we can hire an attorney to sue you at the same time when you try to obtain a building permit to build a fence or addition to your house, because we all know that will affect drainage and cause a flood on your next door neighbor.
This post was edited on 6/30/24 at 9:17 am
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:40 am to
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Looks to me to be an additional 2% tax on top of the tax we already pay?



Looks to me that you are incorrect and a troll wanting to confuse voting on the ballot in an attempt to keep the currently collected 2% sales tax under parish control (i.e. city of Baton Rouge controlled) by not formally declaring it StG’s per state law. The ballot is required by the state.

Baton Rouge is playing being ignorant of boundaries, date, and claiming to not be hearing from StG in an attempt to squeeze every last penny out of StG to spend inside city of Baton Rouge. They know they are supposed to set aside that money now (and possibly since the vote accepted by Edwards a while back before lawsuits started)


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a proposal to call an immediate election on Dec. 7 to ask St. George voters to let the new city government assume control of a 2% sales tax

… the city has until mid-July before hitting a state deadline to call such an election.

This 2% sales tax has long been collected by the city-parish government from residents of the St. George area and used to fund public services (inside Baton Rouge)


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St. George's emergency meeting Thursday resulted in an unanimous vote to set a Dec. 7 election allowing St. George to take control of a 2% sales tax.

The meeting followed another emergency meeting Monday where the St. George Transition District voted, requesting the East Baton Rouge government transfer 2% of sales tax revenue. If the tax transfer was approved, St. George could land nearly $50 million in sales tax from East Baton Rouge.

Despite requests to the East Baton Rouge Metro Council, city-parish officials insist they’ve not been in contact with St. George officials. Mayor-President Sharon Weston Broome said there had been no conversations with the administration about providing services to the citizens of St. George.

St. George Mayor Dustin Yates responded to the claim that there’s been little communication between the two cities. He says Thursday afternoon he and Mayor Broome spoke, and he hopes to move forward with the citizens’ best interest in mind.

Those conversations are being had, and up to this point, they’ve been palatable and cordial,” Yates said. “I can only expect that they’ll continue that way. At the end of the day, we all live in the same parish. We all want the same things. We want a great government. We want safe streets for our children and our families and we want a great place to live.”


https://www.wbrz.com/news/st-george-city-hall-and-transition-district-meet-approves-december-tax-election
https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/st-george-officials-delay-sales-tax-transfer-election-vote/article_b2bc028a-34ac-11ef-b8d5-f78b8fb767b3.html


When Edwards acknowledged vote and signed off on bill approving transition team including outlining gaining access to and then taking control over the 2% sales tax.
https://www.wafb.com/2020/06/17/gov-edwards-signs-st-george-transition-district-bill-into-law/
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:42 am to
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Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:43 am to
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There is city named SG?


That’s StG to you and also to residents of BR.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42649 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:43 am to
It’s not a new tax
Posted by Handsome Pete
Member since Apr 2019
2601 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:45 am to
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If we add another 2% Sales Tax, our sales tax will be like 14%.


Incorrect. St. George is just assuming control of a tax we're already paying. But I think you know this.
Posted by turnpiketiger
Member since May 2020
12264 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:47 am to
Yall didn’t really think any place in Louisiana would become some amazing place to live? The ones that are decent eventually turn to shite or have major flaws.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:47 am to
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If people in SG believe we’re not about to have to pay more in taxes (property; sales), I got some oceanfront property in Arizona for sale you may be interested in.


Maybe one day just like parish or BR may pay more taxes one day, but that’s not what this 2% ballot is doing.


Posted by MrJimBeam
Member since Apr 2009
13085 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:49 am to
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Yall didn’t really think any place in Louisiana would become some amazing place to live? The ones that are decent eventually turn to shite or have major flaws.


God forbid people try to improve their neighborhoods and city for their families moving forward. We should all just submiss to corrupt government.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42309 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:51 am to
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I doubt any new neighborhoods will now be allowed in the new City of SG.


I am going to vote no on the taxes.
I need to read more about the appointed politician and see who he would be running against but if he’s this slimy I’ll vote him out too.
I dislike overzealous HOA’s so will also look into this ruling and campaign against it as well.

But the quoted part is something I agree with. We don’t have the roads and intersections to handle many more new developments.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42309 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:52 am to
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I don’t know the fine details, but the 2% sales tax already exists & has been collected by the city-parish government from residents of the parish (including St. George) and used to fund public services. I’d imagine they’re voting to have this go to St. George rather than to the city-parish. That’s how it was explained in the article I read last week.


What article? Could you link it, I’d like to read it.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:54 am to
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Incorrect. St. George is just assuming control of a tax we're already paying. But I think you know this.


I think poster knows this as well, but this is just part of the new message coming out of BR.

I don’t know for sure, but if the city votes No on the state mandated vote on transferring control of tax to StG I assume the tax reverts/stays under control of the parish metro govt and continues to be spent inside Baton Rouge. StG would seemingly then be unable to fund operations after bridge loan empties.


Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29696 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 9:56 am to
St. George sounds great but it’s still in Louisiana so it’s moot.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:00 am to
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I assume will include an ISD apart from EBRPS.


That is going to be another separate huge fight and potentially expensive with StG probably eating some legacy costs.

Worth it for a functional public school district? Maybe to probably, but thats going to be a pain in the arse and take a lot of time to get there.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:01 am to
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But the quoted part is something I agree with. We don’t have the roads and intersections to handle many more new developments.


Plus, where you gonna develop that aint a flood zone out there?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:03 am to
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I am going to vote no on the taxes.


That would be ignorant unless you want your already collected sales tax dollars to continue to fund the city of Baton Rouge. Your sales tax will not go down with a No vote. It will stay the same, StG will not have the revenue to use for itself (or any revenue), and the 2% will get spent for Baton Rouge services like in the past.

Baton Rouge is counting on voters being ignorant and not understanding the state requires the vote to transfer control of the existing 2% sales tax officially to the city. That is what the capitalist is trying to push now.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
11192 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:04 am to
Did you truly believe that a group of older men with no city or political experience and who rallied for a city were going to be able to create a city that was glorious?

Why anyone would want to be the first group of a city’s official leaders is bewildering. All the headaches. And I hope they do ask for a sales tax and I hope we the people vote no.
Posted by BayouBengalRubicon
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2019
534 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:17 am to
I told you so...
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10619 posts
Posted on 6/30/24 at 10:23 am to
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What article? Could you link it, I’d like to read it.


I posted these two in another comment in this thread.
https://www.wbrz.com/news/st-george-city-hall-and-transition-district-meet-approves-december-tax-election

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/news/politics/st-george-officials-delay-sales-tax-transfer-election-vote/article_b2bc028a-34ac-11ef-b8d5-f78b8fb767b3.html


Also found these
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The transition district was created to provide for a continuation of services between the parish and St. George, according to city spokesman Andrew Murrell. The St. George Transition District is the taxing authority for the 2% sales tax until an election is held to transfer that taxing authority to St. George.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/st-george-transition-team-to-meet-monday-discuss-sales-tax/article_027d147e-3009-11ef-aba5-63e38e9d02bb.html

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After incorporation, and if approved in an election, the 2% sales tax now paid to the City-Parish will be paid to St. George. A majority of electors in St. George already voted to incorporate. According to Incorporator Chris Rials, “one would reasonably expect that if 54% of voters wanted to have St. George, 54% would approve what they’re already paying for.” We agree.

https://www.wbrz.com/news/louisiana-s-highest-court-answered-these-key-questions-about-st-george-s-incorporation/

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