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re: Alpha Gal - the tick-borne meat allergy

Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76107 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:27 pm to
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Basically Bill Gates has funded tick-related research

Which species of tick does this research deal with?
Posted by Twincam
Member since Nov 2021
1007 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:39 pm to
I know 2 people with it, both had ear acupuncture that has kept it at bay.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9189 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:48 pm to
Not sure if I have Alpha Gal but I have been getting chronic hives for about a year now that came out of nowhere. Get them every single day all over my torso and arms. I have been on a new medication that was just approved within the last year or so called Rhapsido and it’s the only thing that has worked
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
14319 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 4:52 pm to
Are you eating mammal meat or dairy daily? Go have some bloodwork done
Posted by dblwall
Member since Jul 2017
1937 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:02 pm to
Sorry I had to put my glasses on to re read it. Thought you wrote thick bone.
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
25345 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:07 pm to
First of all everyone needs to be familiar with the most common places ticks are. If there are deer in your area, you have ticks. I've learned they are concentrated, not in the woods, but in those little ditches you cross to get into the woods. Seriously. Doesn't have to be any water in them, just grass and probably not mowed in a while. I've done an experiment to see how many steps i could take without getting a tick on me crossing these ditches I knew had them. Two steps was the most. Always had them by the third step. Wore all white and had Off on underneath. Of course, they are in the woods itself, but most of the time you can avoid brushing up against grasses and tickseed in the woods.

Wear the freaking Off if you have any chance of being exposed! Especially around the ankles and wrists and shoulders,neck.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76107 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:24 pm to
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Of course, they are in the woods itself, but most of the time you can avoid brushing up against grasses and tickseed in the woods.

Thinking like a tick, what they are, and how they evolved explains this. They aren't fast, so they aren't going to chase down anything. They have to wait. So, where is best to wait? Is haning out in woods in shrubby undergrowth where not much regulary travels worth their time and energy? Or, would it be better to hang out in clearings and trails (man made or game) where there is a known abundance of traffic make more sense? Would hanging out up high in a canopy be beneficial, or low towards the tops of grasses and patches of shrubby brush get them more opportunities?

That's why common areas and nature trails with grasses can be an issue around neighborhoods. We have chopped up their native habitat and provided them convenient islands within the maze of development. They're just doing what ticks do, but now in a rapidly changing world.
This post was edited on 8/20/26 at 5:26 pm
Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
2644 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 5:32 pm to
Meateater podcast had an episode on this a little while ago. The expert said the lone star tick is super aggressive and will actually pursue people. It’s on a whole different level than a deer tick and doesn’t just hang around waiting for you to bump into it.
Posted by Big Fat Guy
Member since Nov 2020
1607 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:11 pm to
Preventive measures -

Off! Deep Woods. But if you can get a higher percentage DEET, might be even better.

Permethrin - Treat Clothing: For maximum safety in heavy brush, treat your shoes, socks, and pant cuffs with a permethrin-based spray, which kills ticks on contact unlike DEET (Off!) which only repels them. Don't apply Permethrin to skin.

Some people say taking MSM wards them off.

'There is one German patent (DE102008006862A1) describing oral MSM as tick/flea prophylaxis in pets and humans, but it's a patent filing with a tiny informal "trial" (about 80 cats and 6 people), not peer-reviewed research.'

DEET (Off!) is stronger than natural repellants, but two natural repellants are:

Rose geranium oil - 'Researchers found that all 10 essential oils of geranium (Pelargonium graveolens) showed repellent activity against lone star tick nymphs.' If you're shopping for geranium oil specifically for tick repellency, look for oil labeled Egyptian or "African type" Pelargonium graveolens, rather than Bourbon/Réunion-type. 10-epi-?-eudesmol is the active tick repelling ingredient, so look for that.

Oil of Lemon Eucalyptus (OLE/PMD) is the only plant-derived active ingredient the CDC/EPA formally recognize as effective against ticks, giving roughly 4-6 hours of protection depending on activity and sweating. Important nuance: lemon eucalyptus essential oil itself doesn't work the same way — OLE is a refined, concentrated synthetic version of PMD, and pure lemon eucalyptus essential oil has too low a PMD concentration to be effective.
Posted by BWHLSU
Member since Jul 2026
155 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:30 pm to
quote:

know 2 people with it, both had ear acupuncture that has kept it at bay.

Spoke with coworker I saw have an episode and she said it does aid, but supposedly 4-5 weeks at a time. Do you know if they completely abstain from meat and have treatment monthly? She asked me to ask.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
103861 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:45 pm to
I was bitten by a tick a month ago and worried about this.

But still eating meat with no issues. frick you bill gates
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80827 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:51 pm to
What did Bill Gates do?
Posted by HoboDickCheese
The overpass
Member since Sep 2020
14319 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

I was bitten by a tick a month ago and worried about this.
Took 3 months before I showed reactions after the initial bite
Posted by jagrays
Member since Sep 2017
205 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 7:09 pm to
I have a relative with it. Emu steaks are not red meat and taste similar to beef.
Posted by TexasTiger08
Member since Oct 2006
30581 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:13 pm to
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What did Bill Gates do?


Invests heavily in lab grown meat I believe. I’m sure it’s all in the name of climate change. The powers that be know we won’t willingly stop eating beef, so another lab disease is needed to get people away from it, and this is it.
Posted by BWHLSU
Member since Jul 2026
155 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:17 pm to
The literal biology of this doesn't make any sense. Gates engineered a tick with a specific 3 part short life cycle? A tick?? He could've eliminated the middle man and gone straight to craft beer
Posted by Twincam
Member since Nov 2021
1007 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:23 pm to
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Spoke with coworker I saw have an episode and she said it does aid, but supposedly 4-5 weeks at a time. Do you know if they completely abstain from meat and have treatment monthly? She asked me to ask.


One guy has had it done a couple times, he eats meat sparingly, honestly being scared. The other had the procedure once and eats how he wants, no symptoms.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76107 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

The literal biology of this doesn't make any sense. Gates engineered a tick with a specific 3 part short life cycle? A tick?? He could've eliminated the middle man and gone straight to craft beer

He'd first have to start by funding research into the tick species that actually causes alpha gal.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6600 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:34 pm to
I have it, diagnosed in 2018. Fortunately my case is very minor. I just stay away from pork and beef and I'm good.

Don't waste time/money on an allergist, the only countermeasure is avoidance and you can figure that out on your own.

AG reactions occur many hours after eating, which makes it more dangerous for those with frequent/severe reactions.

I had the acupuncture (SAAT), I don't think it did anything for me, but my reactions are infrequent/minor to start with.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30465 posts
Posted on 8/20/26 at 8:35 pm to
All wives develop a meat allergy
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