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re: Allegedly, Madison Brooks had sex the day before incident that caused that caused injuries
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:04 am to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:04 am to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:months ago now, in the original thread
Where did yall see these videos?
the one i'm referring to shows the group of perps leaving reggies and walking across Pettit, then you see Brooks basically running to catch up them and then sort of fell into one of them
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 11:06 am
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:06 am to ell_13
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A young, “pretty” white girl died who got drunk and had sex. The initial outrage was over false narratives based on who she had sex with. No witness claimed rape. No video we have seen suggests rape. The only thing the prosecution seems to be leaning on is some possible trauma related to sex. Because she is alleged to have had sex with another person less than 24 hours before this incident, there is likely no way to tell where the trauma originated. It doesn’t seem like there is much of a case.
Thank you. That’s kinda what I thought
But still, her poor family, I feel so bad for them that this dead girls name, reputation and legacy is being dragged through the mud.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 11:09 am
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:08 am to tgrbaitn08
Carver reportedly claimed, “These guys are crazy. They finna rape her,”
“During the 20 minutes the car was parked in the parking lot, prosecutors played video snippets. One of Kaivon (Washington) shoving Maddie down in the backseat, physically shoving her, pushing her hard.”
Despite the loud music, Brooks is heard in surveillance video screaming, “Get off,”
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“During the 20 minutes the car was parked in the parking lot, prosecutors played video snippets. One of Kaivon (Washington) shoving Maddie down in the backseat, physically shoving her, pushing her hard.”
Despite the loud music, Brooks is heard in surveillance video screaming, “Get off,”
LINK
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:10 am to GreatLakesTiger24
I still think a lot of people are putting a lot of stock in what's being leaked by the defense. From a September 2023 article:
Waiting for the whole story to come out at trial would be prudent
quote:
"During the 20 minutes the car was parked in the parking lot, prosecutors played video snippets. One of Kaivon (Washington) shoving Maddie down in the backseat, physically shoving her pushing her hard."
quote:
Then you see Carter with his pants down on top of Maddie. You kind of see her legs sticking up, and she doesn't have anything on. You know it's Desmond Carter because he wore a plaid shirt."
Waiting for the whole story to come out at trial would be prudent
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:12 am to tgrbaitn08
quote:
SFP is not a very good lawyer
This might be your opinion but it doesn't seem to be the opinion of his clients
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:14 am to Ingeniero
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I still think a lot of people are putting a lot of stock in what's being leaked by the defense. From a September 2023 article
No, more people are putting stock in a 4-5 second clip shown by the prosecution months ago. The full videos and Madison's recent sexual history will come to light during the trial.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:15 am to tigerskin
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Carver reportedly claimed, “These guys are crazy. They finna rape her,” “During the 20 minutes the car was parked in the parking lot, prosecutors played video snippets. One of Kaivon (Washington) shoving Maddie down in the backseat, physically shoving her, pushing her hard.” Despite the loud music, Brooks is heard in surveillance video screaming, “Get off,”
Well if that’s all true then I’d be torn as a juror
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:16 am to Ingeniero
quote:
Waiting for the whole story to come out at trial would be prudent
Always best decision
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:19 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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The full videos
Possibly show one of the accused shoving her down while he pounds her and she screams "get off"
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Madison's recent sexual history
May not even be admissable, and wouldn't change the fact that sex almost 48 hours before doesn't make you not a victim of rape in a totally different encounter.
Regardless, deciding on anything based on what's being passed along to the news is silly. It's meant to make you think one way or another before the facts come out.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:21 am to tgrbaitn08
I remember in the OG thread people were speculating whether these boys were filming because the affidavit mentioned snap chats.
Some were saying no way and some were saying yeah kids video everything..
I feel strongly that the videos alone will either get these boys acquitted or send them to jail for life, depending on what they show.
Some were saying no way and some were saying yeah kids video everything..
I feel strongly that the videos alone will either get these boys acquitted or send them to jail for life, depending on what they show.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:22 am to Ingeniero
A question for the lawyers here, who testifies while they show the videos? If Carver was filming and doesn't take the stand, who even answers questions about what's shown?
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:23 am to ell_13
quote:Because she is dead.
No witness claimed rape.
Carver also told police he knew the 2 in back of car were taking advantage of her.
quote:
The only thing the prosecution seems to be leaning on is some possible trauma related to sex.
My biggest thing as far as 3rd degree rape was her blood alcohol levels along with their statements to police about how drunk she was. Those blood alcohol levels got reduce from .319 to I think almost .28, but that didn’t change much for me. There is drunk and then there is drunk drunk or however Washington described her level of intoxication.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 11:39 am
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:34 am to ell_13
Damn man that’s cold to put pretty in quotes
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:34 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Madison's recent sexual history will come to light during the trial.
I don’t get what this has to do with anything. Sluts can still be raped.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:35 am to tgrbaitn08
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But still, her poor family, I feel so bad for them
quote:
tgrbaitn08
Oh yeah I’m sure you do. You have always struck me as such a kind soul
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:38 am to dallastigers
quote:To a jury, this may be important, but the law doesn’t hinge on drunkenness here. Drunk women, even as drunk as her, have sex all the time. Willing participants, like she seemed to be, can’t claim rape.
Those got reduce from .319 to I think almost .28, but that didn’t change much for me. There is drunk and then there is drunk drunk or however Washington described her level of intoxication.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:39 am to ell_13
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No witness claimed rape. No video we have seen suggests rape. The only thing the prosecution seems to be leaning on is some possible trauma related to sex.
This is misleading. What had been alledged from the start has been she was too drunk to consent. This was established from Washington's statements, her BAC, and that she was incapable of providing directions. So any sex was non-consensual, i.e., rape.
Moreover, who's seen ALL the video evidence? So any statements on here to that end, is premature.
And some of you can do yourselves a favor and disabuse yourself from asserting that claims of rape are simply emotions run amok.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 11:42 am
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:41 am to Ingeniero
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If Carver was filming and doesn't take the stand,
I don’t do any criminal work, but unless there’s an exception, I don’t know that the video would be admissible without an authenticating witness.
Granted it’s been a while since I’ve looked at the evidence rules/hearsay exceptions.
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:43 am to The Boat
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don’t get what this has to do with anything. Sluts can still be raped.
Evidence of sexual trauma/activity is at least in part the basis for the charges.
Establishing that she had another sexual encounter that could explain those physical symptoms is certainly relevant to the defense team.
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