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re: Allegedly, Madison Brooks had sex the day before incident that caused that caused injuries

Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:44 am to
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:44 am to
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I don’t do any criminal work, but unless there’s an exception, I don’t know that the video would be admissible without an authenticating witness.


Now THAT would piss a lot of people off and rightfully so
Posted by AlwysATgr
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:47 am to
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:48 am to
No one is going to buy that. It would come down to when was it more likely to happen. People will say it’s more likely when you’re drunk as frick and struggling in a car. And it’s not like having rough sex the day before means trauma wasn’t also caused that night. I know these oil slicks have to put together a case but jurors aren’t going to get distracted by that.
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:51 am to
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What had been alledged from the start has been she was too drunk to consent.
From the public maybe and it can be a part of an overall narrative but it still has to be established that she showed unwillingness. Being drunk alone is not a basis for rape.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:52 am to
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No one is going to buy that. It would come down to when was it more likely to happen. People will say it’s more likely when you’re drunk as frick and struggling in a car. And it’s not like having rough sex the day before means trauma wasn’t also caused that night. I know these oil slicks have to put together a case but jurors aren’t going to get distracted by that.


I think you're underestimating the impact of a doctor sitting up there and testifying that the physical trauma cannot be conclusively tied to the events in the back of the car.

I don't think the case will hinge on that, but its certainly something the defense can and will do--if the judge lets it in over the rape shield.

As others have said, whatever videos from inside the car exist will probably determine how it goes at trial.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 11:53 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:59 am to
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I think you're underestimating the impact of a doctor sitting up there and testifying that the physical trauma cannot be conclusively tied to the events in the back of the car.

Can’t wait to see Dr Plantz testify.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:03 pm to
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Can’t wait to see Dr Plantz testify.

The prosecution's doctor will have to admit that.
Posted by redstickrick
Laffy, La
Member since May 2019
486 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:35 pm to
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To authenticate the video

You just have a technological expert verify time and date the video came on and off the phones hard drive. Don’t need carver.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 12:36 pm
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:52 pm to
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I don’t get what this has to do with anything. Sluts can still be raped.


IMO it is theoretically impossible at this point to convict any of these fellows beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm not sure if that's what the jury's standard is in this case, but if it is, the prosecutor will lose (especially if they need a unanimous verdict in Baton Rouge).
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6982 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:54 pm to
Any chance this trial will be televised?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:54 pm to
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Carver reportedly claimed, “These guys are crazy. They finna rape her,”




I know this is hard for some to understand, but it's a white trash thug trying to talk like he's on a Worldstar video. Does he really mean "rape" in the sense of illegal nonconsensual sex, or does he simply mean they are about to frick her?
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:54 pm to
I disagree here. A jury will be super swayed by what these dudes did to her…
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:56 pm to
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IMO it is theoretically impossible at this point to convict any of these fellows beyond a reasonable doubt.

I'm not sure if that's what the jury's standard is in this case,


You are correct. All criminal convictions must be beyond a reasonable doubt.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18863 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 12:58 pm to
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jurors aren’t going to get distracted by that.

Go to your local WalMart. Walk around and talk to a few people. Then acknowledge that's your jury and tell me if you still believe that.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 1:05 pm
Posted by tigerpawl
Can't get there from here.
Member since Dec 2003
22628 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:00 pm to
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Madison Brooks had sex the day before incident that caused that caused injuries

"I'll take What Had Happened Was for $200, Alex".

Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:03 pm to
This case is different slo.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38249 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:04 pm to
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You just have a technological expert verify time and date the video came on and off the phones hard drive. Don’t need carver.

Makes sense.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
21349 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:08 pm to
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know this is hard for some to understand, but it's a white trash thug trying to talk like he's on a Worldstar video. Does he really mean "rape" in the sense of illegal nonconsensual sex, or does he simply mean they are about to . . . ?


Well, how much knowledge of Washington's previous misconduct do you think he had? He basically took a rabid dog to a kid's park.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38249 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:11 pm to
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This case is different slo.

The population of EBR that is emotionally inflamed by this case are not going to be on the jury.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216643 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 1:13 pm to
Agreed. He was a predator… he has been charged with raping a 14 year old….. before this ever happened.
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