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re: Allegedly, Madison Brooks had sex the day before incident that caused that caused injuries

Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:54 am to
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:54 am to
I’m just curious, who is claiming she was raped?

She obviously can’t testify that she was raped

Are one of the guys that were in the car saying she was raped?

Just bc there’s evidence she had sex, but what’s the evidence pointing to rape?

I know these questions have been answered but I’m trying to catch up
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:55 am to
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Can you please follow the thread? SFP said they didn’t have sex because he is playing a lawyer game. That is a piece of shite move in my opinion
Thats not what he or the lawyers are saying at all. You seem to be emotional and it’s causing some confusion for you.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:55 am to
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I dare you to tell the poli board this about Trump's attorneys


The irony of a POS ambulance chaser posting this ....

Congrats on FINALLY finding a way to bring Trump into the thread, you TDS addled POS....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:55 am to
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Most of the criminal defense attorneys I have spoken with (not about this specific case) generally don't want to actually know whether their client committed what they're being accused of (when its in dispute at least). In their words, their job is to ensure that the prosecution proves its case beyond a reasonable doubt--not to establish innocence.

It's this and if they do take the chance it testifying at trial you can't let them testify to something you know is false. So you don't ask specifics and therefore you cannot knowingly suborn perjury.

I've known of some attorneys who thought that they would always be able to tell their client not to testify a trial who got into a pickle and had to do the whole sidebar conference and basically tell everyone they know their clients about the lie and it causes all sorts of problems
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79453 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:55 am to
this is something people need to remember when a rape victim doesn’t come forward right away.

This is how you defend rape charges and if Madison was alive shed have to address this in cross examination.

Rape is such a hard crime to prosecute.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18093 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:56 am to
quote:

You seem to be emotional

Looks like some baws stumbled upon OML's amphetamine and estrogen dick shot cocktail.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477243 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:56 am to
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SFP said they didn’t have sex


No I didn't.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60718 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:58 am to
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I’m just curious, who is claiming she was raped?

didn't one of the perps say something along the lines of "she was too fricked up to consent"?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:58 am to
A young, “pretty” white girl died who got drunk and had sex. The initial outrage was over false narratives based on who she had sex with. No witness claimed rape. No video we have seen suggests rape. The only thing the prosecution seems to be leaning on is some possible trauma related to sex. Because she is alleged to have had sex with another person less than 24 hours before this incident, there is likely no way to tell where the trauma originated. It doesn’t seem like there is much of a case.
Posted by Ingeniero
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2013
23042 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:58 am to
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SFP said they didn’t have sex because he is playing a lawyer game


He said prosecution lacks physical evidence of penetrative sex. That's not the same thing.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111523 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 10:59 am to
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I’m just curious, who is claiming she was raped?
The DA

quote:

Are one of the guys that were in the car saying she was raped?
No

The driver responded with “I guess” a few days after the incident when cops asked him “do you think she was too drunk to consent?”

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Just bc there’s evidence she had sex, but what’s the evidence pointing to rape?
It will be intoxication levels
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:00 am to
quote:

I’m just curious, who is claiming she was raped?

She obviously can’t testify that she was raped

Are one of the guys that were in the car saying she was raped?

Just bc there’s evidence she had sex, but what’s the evidence pointing to rape?

I know these questions have been answered but I’m trying to catch up


Exactly. This case doesn't really make any sense.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37364 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:00 am to
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I’m just curious, who is claiming she was raped?
At this point, the State of Louisiana.

quote:

Just bc there’s evidence she had sex, but what’s the evidence pointing to rape?

I haven't looked at the indictment in a long time, but I believe they based the charges on whatever video exists, the physical injuries from her autopsy, and the initial statements of the guy whose attorney filed this motion. Perhaps also surveillance footage and testimony from the bar they were at about how much she had had to drink, etc.

There was also immense pressure to bring charges in BR at the time given the obvious impact of a young attractive LSU student being killed after leaving a popular college bar.
This post was edited on 3/13/24 at 11:02 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:01 am to
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SFP said they didn’t have sex because he is playing a lawyer game. That is a piece of shite move in my opinion


SFP is not a very good lawyer

Also, I’m not sure if you’re aware but SFP once claimed he was raped, so that might explain his position on this matter.


SFP, tell the class about your rape allegations
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:01 am to
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It will be intoxication levels
Not the smoking gun people think it is. Being drunk doesn’t automatically equal rape.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
60718 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:01 am to
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The initial outrage was over false narratives based on who she had sex with
the video of her chasing them to their car was a big turning point and changed everything, at least in my legally-ignorant mind.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:03 am to
She was all over the younger kid from the start too.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:03 am to
Where did yall see these videos?
Posted by JDPndahizzy
JDP
Member since Nov 2013
6966 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:04 am to
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the video of her chasing them to their car was a big turning point and changed everything, at least in my legally-ignorant mind.


Yeah that's when alot of people took a step back and waited on more evidence to make up their mind..
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 3/13/24 at 11:04 am to
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A young, “pretty” white girl died who got drunk and had sex. The initial outrage was over false narratives based on who she had sex with. No witness claimed rape. No video we have seen suggests rape. The only thing the prosecution seems to be leaning on is some possible trauma related to sex. Because she is alleged to have had sex with another person less than 24 hours before this incident, there is likely no way to tell where the trauma originated. It doesn’t seem like there is much of a case.


Well stated.

Will piss off many.

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