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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks

Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:39 am to
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:39 am to
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Because aggressors don't get the benefit of self-defense.


Arbery made the aggressive move towards the shooter leading to him being shot.. I’m telling you these guys will walk (at least not be convicted of murder), and the uproar will be here and everywhere.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:40 am to
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Arbery made the aggressive move towards the shooter leading to him being shot.. I’m telling you these guys will walk (at least not be convicted of murder), and the uproar will be here and everywhere.


No. He didn't. He was running around the truck and the shooter literally walked around to engage him with firearm in hand.

Are we even watching the same video?
Posted by Ingeniero
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:40 am to
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Arbery made the aggressive move towards the shooter leading to him being shot

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:41 am to
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Arbery made the aggressive move towards the shooter l

Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:42 am to
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Arbery made the aggressive move towards the shooter leading to him being shot.
I just don't understand how Arbery would be painted as the aggressor here
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:42 am to
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Arbery made the aggressive move towards the shooter leading to him being shot.. I’m telling you these guys will walk (at least not be convicted of murder), and the uproar will be here and everywhere.


Nope. You can’t park in the middle of the street, wait for someone to get to you, jump out with a shotgun in your hand and call the other unarmed guy the aggressor.

How are people this dumb?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:42 am to
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Arbery made the aggressive move towards the shooter leading to him being shot.. I’m telling you these guys will walk (at least not be convicted of murder), and the uproar will be here and everywhere.


for your sake I sincerely hope you are just trolling at this point
Posted by DomincDecoco
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:43 am to
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Arbery made the aggressive move towards the shooter leading to him being shot


after being confronted by a man with a gun while running....not even close

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I’m telling you these guys will walk (at least not be convicted of murder), and the uproar will be here and everywhere.


maybe...but it wont be because the law was on their side or their actions were within it.
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:43 am to
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No. He didn't. He was running around the truck and the shooter literally walked around to engage him with firearm in hand.


Read the DA’s report on the incident and get back to me. Arbery ran to the right around the truck, then took a hard 90* turn left running towards the shooter. The video shows this as well.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:43 am to
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I totally agree. I think you find a lot of the evidence of how wrong they were in how dad changed his story from the actual facts.

You usually do that when you know the actual facts make you look really bad.


Well and it makes it worse that Dad is former, long-term law enforcement. At that point you can make the assumption that he would know what a felony is and know the citizen's arrest law in Georgia. So he can't feign ignorance of that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:43 am to
yes the unarmed guy not engaging who is cut off and confronted by guys with guns clearly is the aggressor

like i said on the poli board, unless there is some magic video evidence to show otherwise, Ahmaud Arbery would have been justified in killing those 2 pieces of shite when they confronted him with guns. it doesn't work the other way around unless you have an agenda priming your internal biases
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:44 am to
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Read the DA’s report on the incident and get back to me. Arbery ran to the right around the truck, then took a hard 90* turn left running towards the shooter. The video shows this as well.
this the same DA that supported clearing them under the citizens arrest statute even though there's no evidence of a crime being committed?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:45 am to
if the DAs office really does try to ignore this, the DOJ is going to be up their asses for years
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:46 am to
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Read the DA’s report on the incident and get back to me. Arbery ran to the right around the truck, then took a hard 90* turn left running towards the shooter. The video shows this as well.


No it doesn't. I literally just watched and screen shotted that.

The video is wobbly from where we see him go to the passenger side and straightens back up when he's at the front of the truck.

Any "engagement" by Arbery at the front of the truck is negated by the fact (and it's a fact) that the son got out of the truck AFTER he was already on the passenger side of the truck and engaged Arbery with firearm in hand.

You can't argue self-defense when you leave a position INSIDE the truck to engage an unarmed guy running AROUND your truck who is not even remotely close to "charging" you. And one that you were parked and waiting for to arrive.

Arbery had every right to defend himself when he saw that the guy who walked around the truck to meet him was carrying a fricking shotgun pointed at him.

Now had Arbery ran around to the driver side while the son was still in the truck and tried to grab his firearm, you MIGHT be able to make that argument. But then you still have to argue that Arbery wasn't endangered by the man in the back of the parked truck who also had a firearm pointed at him and was waiting on him.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 9:50 am
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:47 am to
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The fact the father says they had driven to catch up with Arbery and as they pulled alongside him, Arbery charged


Like a rhino? I didn’t see his statement but did he say Arbery charged them while they were in the truck?
Posted by Antonio Moss
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:48 am to
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The funny thing is that I bet a lot of you are completely outraged at the lies you think the media is telling about COVID, but they're obviously being completely truthful here and telling the whole story.

Keep doing you, OT.


You think this is a doctored video?

Because the media isn't telling me anything. I'm watching a video of the event.
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:49 am to
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The Pirate King

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:49 am to
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You think this is a doctored video?


You knocked the shite of that straw man! Jesus, is your fricking hand OK?
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:49 am to
Judging by that screenshot, looks like the dad possibly already had his gun locked and loaded pointed at the guy. And from the video it is clear to see the son was standing outside the car driver-side door with his shotgun while victim was jogging up.

I swear, if these guys manage to escape this scot-free without any charges then this will be maybe the biggest abberation of justice I have personally ever seen in my life.
Posted by MightyYat
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:50 am to
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Read the DA’s report on the incident and get back to me. Arbery ran to the right around the truck, then took a hard 90* turn left running towards the shooter. The video shows this as well.


So we don’t place any blame on the guy hopping out the truck with a fricking shotgun?? C’mon man.

Btw, and this will be huge in this case, they have statements from neighbors saying they’d see Arbery jogging all the time on that street and he’d always wave to them. These two shitheads are fricked and it’s absurd they’re not in fricking jail yet.
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