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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:50 am to SlowFlowPro
I'll say this, if that's the DA's position then let's revisit some old cases...
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:51 am to Antonio Moss
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Because the media isn't telling me anything. I'm watching a video of the event.
I mean, there have literally been stories entitled "He was just a Jogger" and "Modern-Day Lynching", but keep on keeping on. No agendas whatsoever. 
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:51 am to QJenk
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Judging by that screenshot, looks like the dad possibly already had his gun locked and loaded pointed at the guy
this is going to be crucial to thwart any bullshite "self defense" argument. by doing this, the duo was clearly the aggressor
i think the dad was set up like this before AA even approaches the parked truck. how can they argue HE was then the aggressor?
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I swear, if these guys manage to escape this scot-free without any charges then this will be maybe the biggest abberation of justice I have personally ever seen in my life.
if i was Elon Musk rich i'd pay a group of armed men to follow them and attempt citizen's arrests with guns pointed daily
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:52 am to Mo Jeaux
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I mean, there have literally been stories entitled "He was just a Jogger" and "Modern-Day Lynching", but keep on keeping on. No agendas whatsoever.
Show us some facts that say either of theses aren’t true.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:52 am to BluegrassBelle
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Now had Arbery ran around to the driver side while the son was still in the truck and tried to grab his firearm, you MIGHT be able to make that argument. But then you still have to argue that Arbery wasn't in dangered by the man in the back of the parked truck who also had a firearm pointed at him and was waiting on him.
Imagine if this was a good southern baw walking down the street while concealed carry. A couple of hoods roll up on him, block his path and then get out of their car guns drawn. Baw draws and a firefight ensues leaving the hoods dead.
Not one single person in this thread would argue that the baw made the aggressive move that lead to a fatal shooting. Not one.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:52 am to The Egg
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I'll say this, if that's the DA's position then let's revisit some old cases...
if these DAs don't indict these 2 pieces of shite, the DOJ is going to investigate a lot more than just this incident
even Ferguson got popped when the cop who shot michael brown was 100% cleared (even by the DOJ). they found shite
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:53 am to QJenk
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swear, if these guys manage to escape this scot-free without any charges
Not going to happen. My guess is the charges will not be enough to appease community agitators though, whatever they are.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:53 am to The Pirate King
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Arbery made the aggressive move towards the shooter leading to him being shot..
Only after two armed men blocked the road, exited the vehicle, and pointed guns at him.
That is the initial aggressive act.
You don't get to start the timeline in the middle of the action.
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I’m telling you these guys will walk (at least not be convicted of murder), and the uproar will be here and everywhere.
I'll take that bet.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:56 am to MightyYat
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Show us some facts that say either of theses aren’t true.
You think this was a "lynching"? I mean the cringe is palpable.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:57 am to Mo Jeaux
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You think this was a "lynching"? I mean the cringe is palpable.
You seem to not understand what lynching means.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:57 am to Mo Jeaux
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You knocked the shite of that straw man! Jesus, is your fricking hand OK?
I don't think you understand what a strawman argument is.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:58 am to QJenk
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I swear, if these guys manage to escape this scot-free without any charges then this will be maybe the biggest abberation of justice I have personally ever seen in my life.
There will be riots
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:59 am to Rep520
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The fact the father says they had driven to catch up with Arbery and as they pulled alongside him, Arbery charged, is something I noticed immediately in what you say above.
They didn't have to catch Arbery, they were sitting and waiting for him. It seems fairly clear to me dad lied because it's a much more sympathetic story if they're trying to catch him and Arbery attacks and they need to shoot him in protection.
When you see them sitting and waiting on Arbery, then the son jump out with a shotgun when Arbery tries to go around, it's a very different story.
I also think it's really suspicious the father said there were two shots when you clearly hear three, and he says they were fired after they were struggling for the gun. Ahain, it seems to intentionally change the story to mask that son had the shotgun up and firing before any struggle for it.
I’d basically posted this like 18 pages ago. They 2 offenders clearly used extremely aggressive and offensive tactics. I just dont buy any type of “self defense” argument. They chased down with full intent to confront a jogger, with someone wielding a gun in the bed. Parked, Jumped out blasting away with a shot gun. There was no time for a “hey stop we want to talk to you”.
I dont see much suspicion in the fact that the dad said there was only 2 shots, when we heard 3. Things happen so fast, he may have only registered 2 shots. But that is like the least concerning thing in this situation. It just doesnt seem like there was any plan/action taken for any type of peaceful resolution before spraying lead. These 2 ‘men’ are animals and society would be better off with them put away.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:59 am to Antonio Moss
Does anyone else find it odd that he didn’t turn around and run back the way he came when he saw the truck and guys with guns?
I wonder if he was worried about the guy following him?
That guy may be in some trouble.
I wonder if he was worried about the guy following him?
That guy may be in some trouble.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:59 am to MightyYat
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Show us some facts that say either of theses aren’t true.
I think the problem is that few facts are known here, regardless of position.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 9:59 am to JohnnyKilroy
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You seem to not understand what lynching means.
Their intention appeared to be to hold the guy and or question him and perform a citizens arrest. I’m sure they didn’t go into the situation wanting to kill the guy.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:00 am to The Pirate King
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Read the DA’s report on the incident and get back to me
You mean the report from the DA's office where the dad used to work as an investigator?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:00 am to Mo Jeaux
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I mean, there have literally been stories entitled "He was just a Jogger" and "Modern-Day Lynching", but keep on keeping on. No agendas whatsoever.
None of which is relevant.
Even if I take the word of the rednecks and assume what they say is true, it's still fricking murder.
Your point is absurdly stupid.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:00 am to SlowFlowPro
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this is going to be crucial to thwart any bullshite "self defense" argument. by doing this, the duo was clearly the aggressor
i think the dad was set up like this before AA even approaches the parked truck. how can they argue HE was then the aggressor?
It's too hard to tell here (it was pretty blurry) but it looks like he's at least facing him at the 16 second mark.
But then when the first shot happens seconds later (at 20 seconds), the Dad is definitely in a position to shoot and holding something. I don't know that he makes that turn, pulls out the firearm, and is in position in 4 seconds. It'd be reasonable believe he had the firearm out when Arbery was running up and around the truck.
But when it's all said and done, IMO the most important screenshot is the first one that shows they were parked and waiting for Arbery. They weren't "pursuing" him. He wasn't "running alongside". They were armed and ready.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:00 am to OysterPoBoy
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Does anyone else find it odd that he didn’t turn around and run back the way he came when he saw the truck and guys with guns?
He had already turned around to avoid them once.
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