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re: Aliens come and take away every man-made object. Humans maintain their current knowledge..
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:21 am to sparkinator
Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:21 am to sparkinator
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We lose the physical
How???... this scenario has me confused as hell... the "physical" is the raw materials isn't it???... the development stages of a lot things wouldn't be needed if we keep our current knowledge...
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Posted on 11/2/24 at 11:28 am to Toss_Dive
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The question is how long would it take to build one singular iPhone 16
If it has to be an iPhone 16 exactly, to spec. The answer is never. We may rebuild convergent type technologies that would be considered similar, but we won’t reproduce the iPhone 16 exactly ever again.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 12:40 pm to lepdagod
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How???... this scenario has me confused as hell... the "physical" is the raw materials isn't it???... the development stages of a lot things wouldn't be needed if we keep our current knowledge...
What will people do initially? Start to work on a phone? No. Survival first.
The only way for me to rationalize or parallel this scenario is if we had a great flood or a meteor struck the earth. How long until we recover from that. All would be scrambling for clothes, water, and shelter, and whatever ‘food’ we had. Because it would all be gone. We lose everything man made. We would have to start there. Worse than Mad Max. That world still had some technology and prewar machines.
Defend ourselves from roving gangs trying to take over any plot of ground or ‘food’ that we had. And nothing much to defend ourselves with.
The ‘pockets’ of civilized communities wouldn’t be civilized long. Families would be trusted but that’s about it. We would lose pretty much all our technical knowledge within a few generations.
How long ago was the flood?
Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:16 pm to LSU6262
Joe Rogan talked about this in his 2006 standup. Hilarious
NSFW language
NSFW language
Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:22 pm to white perch
There would be no houses, no streets, no clothes. It would be like a world-wide naked and afraid
Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:40 pm to Adajax
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There would be no houses, no streets, no clothes. It would be like a world-wide naked and afraid
Yep and people who know how to make fire would be the "wealthiest"
Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:48 pm to LSU6262
I mean...in this hypo, hundreds of billions will die in short order.
No way to communicate long range, reduced to the speed of a horse once more.
Assume many of those with the necessary tech knowledge, will be in cities and dead.
Even if you could have groups dedicated to producing the now mythical, magical talking box...developing the necessary infrastructure, even in one place, starting from fire and rocks...man, outlook bleak just on raw materials.
Not to mention fighting off the roving bands of raiders trying to survive.
But, you messed up.
You didn't define "fully functioning iPhone 16"
Make rectangle rock. Stick apple logo on it. Call it iPhone 16
Checkmate
Its fully functional
Just bricked
No way to communicate long range, reduced to the speed of a horse once more.
Assume many of those with the necessary tech knowledge, will be in cities and dead.
Even if you could have groups dedicated to producing the now mythical, magical talking box...developing the necessary infrastructure, even in one place, starting from fire and rocks...man, outlook bleak just on raw materials.
Not to mention fighting off the roving bands of raiders trying to survive.
But, you messed up.
You didn't define "fully functioning iPhone 16"
Make rectangle rock. Stick apple logo on it. Call it iPhone 16
Checkmate
Its fully functional
Just bricked
This post was edited on 11/2/24 at 2:49 pm
Posted on 11/2/24 at 2:54 pm to LSU6262
500-1000 is absurd 
50 max to be all the way back. A lot of essentials would be back within 5.
50 max to be all the way back. A lot of essentials would be back within 5.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:12 pm to GRTiger
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50 max to be all the way back. A lot of essentials would be back within 5.
Explain. Put a group of expects on naked and afraid with zero outside help for 5 years and how far advanced do you expect them to be
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:13 pm to Decisions
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A small group of knowledgeable people could probably get a pre-microchip society fully up and running in under three years given available resources. It’s only the digital-era tech/manufacturing that would take real time and precision.
Nooo, I don’t think so. In one month there would be no food. Mass starvation would set it with war everywhere. It would take months before canabilization reduced the population to a size that the earth could support with agriculture that used no pesticides and only wooden tools.
Only then could we begin to think of advancing. We would be mining coal for heating fuel, and we would be smelting ore for metal tools. We would have no oil or gas because there would be no drill rigs.
As I posted before, I think we could get back in 50 years, but not much sooner than that.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:15 pm to GRTiger
Nah we'd be way more concerned with killing each other than progressing.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:16 pm to LSU6262
I'd expect them to have shelter, a supply of food, and orderly communities with a shared goal of returning to the glory days. I'd expect long range communication to be up in 5 years as well.
Our ancestors built completely new communities in relatively small amounts of time with 0% of our current knowledge.
Our ancestors built completely new communities in relatively small amounts of time with 0% of our current knowledge.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:18 pm to LSU6262
90% of world would die from dehydration in a month
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:19 pm to saintsfan22
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Nah we'd be way more concerned with killing each other than progressing.
I'm taking this out of the equation. In this hypothetical it seems the world would be very aware of what was going on. I'm assuming the best of humanity in this alternate reality where aliens could evaporate every human invention instantly.
I can argue that we'd just die if we want to go worst case scenario. That doesn't seem interesting.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:23 pm to LSU6262
If people like these folk are here, we’ll be back and running at 110% in 350 days.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:26 pm to soccerfüt
Hell we might not even notice a difference. Maybe this would be how we confirm that all our tech is alien made.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:43 pm to Toss_Dive
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If so
Short-term (0–5 years): Basic infrastructure and simple manufacturing might be restored.
Mid-term (5–15 years): Advanced manufacturing capabilities, including microchip production, could begin to take shape.
Long-term (15–30+ years): Production of complex, integrated devices like an iPhone 16 could become feasible.
It might take 20 to 30 years to fully rebuild the technological ecosystem necessary to manufacture a device like an iPhone 16
This timeline ignores the implications of the scenario. You don’t just your ability to get memes.
You lost a source of food, shelter, clothing. In a blink you have literally nothing.
Studies of similar but far less damaging scenarios such as a broad EMP, has over 90% of Americans dead in 18 months.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 3:55 pm to Volvagia
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Studies of similar but far less damaging scenarios such as a broad EMP, has over 90% of Americans dead in 18 months.
If you have one of these handy, I'd be interested in perusing it.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 4:01 pm to LSU6262
Much mish faster than you think. Just look at WW2. The entire country was in wartime production. That means they had to invent, design, and then build and assemble.
They also had to create the tools and things for large products.
At the end of the war they were making 1 of these an hour. And that’s only over the course of a couple of years.
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You are also talking about 1 iPhone. Basically a prototype. You don’t need shite tons of production equipment that can make thousands of them.
They also had to create the tools and things for large products.
At the end of the war they were making 1 of these an hour. And that’s only over the course of a couple of years.
You are also talking about 1 iPhone. Basically a prototype. You don’t need shite tons of production equipment that can make thousands of them.
Posted on 11/2/24 at 4:03 pm to GRTiger
I love how most people here think we'd just devolve into caveman for centuries without the stuff around us.
Knowledge is what separates us from our ancestors. That isn't going away.
shite, the Egyptians built the pyramids in like 25 years over 2000 years ago. Yet we'd devolve into dumb apes if we lost all our tools overnight?
Knowledge is what separates us from our ancestors. That isn't going away.
shite, the Egyptians built the pyramids in like 25 years over 2000 years ago. Yet we'd devolve into dumb apes if we lost all our tools overnight?
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