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re: Alabama prison to cost over $1 billion

Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5033 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:44 pm to
Honk honk
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
9457 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:56 pm to
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Sounds like a luxury prison. Should be the bare minimum.


"Bare Minimum" WAS how things were run, until Federal judges started ruling that it was cruel. That's why we're being forced to construct $1 billion dollar whiz-bang jails. Thank the trial lawyers and the judges that enable them.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293053 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:04 pm to
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until Federal judges started ruling that it was cruel.


Yep, we treat career criminals far better than they deserve.

Waste too much money on bleeding hearts.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41607 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:09 pm to
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Angola holds 6300 prisoners. I wonder how much it would cost to build. Surely nowhere near $1B? I've been there as a visitor and it looked pretty basic.


It has several camps and medium security dorms besides the old main prison.

It would easily cost over two billion dollars to build all that to today’s standards.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 2:10 pm
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
31636 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:09 pm to
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Angola holds 6300 prisoners. I wonder how much it would cost to build. Surely nowhere near $1B?

$1B to house 4,000 inmates is unfathomable. A concrete structure, 8X8 cells w/bars, cigar box window, a single light bulb, toilet/sick and a metal cot.
Posted by RodFarva
Spurbury, Vermont
Member since Jun 2015
667 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:11 pm to
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magine paying $140 million to assume a group of criminals' gender


Well it is called Louisiana Correctional Institute for Women. Imagine trying to troll only for it to back fire.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 2:14 pm
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27014 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:15 pm to
You could buy a big arse island in the Pacific for much cheaper and ship every person serving a life sentence there. Win-win for all parties.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16567 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:17 pm to
A .22acp is much cheaper.
Posted by keks tadpole
Yellow Leaf Creek
Member since Feb 2017
8451 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:17 pm to
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There are at least 100 towns in Alabama that cost less than $1B- just buy one and put a wall around it

Now playing, Kurt Russell in "Escape from Notasulga"
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
128657 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:21 pm to
It should be a bunch of very basic dormitories

And they need space for a lot more than 4000, we need at least triple the number of prisoners we currently have. Way too many POS walking the streets
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
135050 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:24 pm to
Prisons should be cheap. Poured concrete, no TVs, sledgehammer and huge rocks to break each day. 3 simple meals and a toothbrush. Do it all again tomorrow.

Posted by SantaFe
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
7569 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:26 pm to
Couldn't MeeMaw just buy a couple of old malls and put some chicken wire over the windows and bolt the excess doors shut ?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31369 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:37 pm to
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"Bare Minimum" WAS how things were run, until Federal judges started ruling that it was cruel. That's why we're being forced to construct $1 billion dollar whiz-bang jails. Thank the trial lawyers and the judges that enable them.


Just regurgitated talking points. As already pointed out, this comes out to over $250k per housed inmate. I defy anyone to come up with a list of amenities that could scratch $10k per inmate. Big screen TVs, cell phones, computer, whatever. Give it a shot. Now try $200k (reserving a still absurd $50k per inmate for the actual structure, medical, etc).

This is straight fricking self dealing grift.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
7146 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:47 pm to
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At least someone is building prisons? That seems to be a win as DA's across the country aren't doing their jobs?
Folks like your a a good reason why shyt like this flies.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:53 pm to
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Member since Jun 2015
537 posts


I feel privileged that you cared enough to post
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
9492 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:56 pm to
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if it was La we would have zero prisons and reallocated the 1.25 to something else. Count your blessings


Definitely would go to public sector worker union pensions
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
32574 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 2:57 pm to
Some people living on the streets can commit a felony just to live in that new place, cold A/C, 3 hot meals a day,

WTF

Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
36902 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:02 pm to
LOL if anyone thinks that this is the final price or that this prison will meet expectations. I bet they determine that it cannot safely house 4k prisoners when all is said and done.

This new bidding process basically gave the winner of the design (10% of the project) free reign to charge what they pleased over the remaining 90%.

Everyone knows that regular government bidding is inefficient, but whole hell some of the ideas to replace it are God awful. I think that we have to accept that regular bidding is innefient but is done for a reason.
Posted by gerberbaby22
Member since Oct 2022
156 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:06 pm to
It'll still be over-budget.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
18891 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 3:08 pm to
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It's unbelievable how dumb this state is.

It's not stupidity. Palms are being greased.
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