re: Abortion/child support double standard

All I did was ask a very simple question, which you didn’t answer at all. What reproductive rights are women missing out on?

Even more heinous is that she can kill the unborn baby without you even knowing that there was a baby.

Women aren't drafted to serve in combat why do women think they could have equality in issues of National Defense. Including the border

Women aren't serving in oil and gas exploration a dangerous job to any extent so I think that we can fairly say that women don't have the right to use gasoline and if they're not using gasoline they have no business driving cars

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Well we also used to shun and shame people for abortion

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We were a better country for it.

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Well we also used to shun and shame people for abortion

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I can imagine the utopia we will be when all other murders are no longer shunned.

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This argument in and of itself is as weak-arse as it comes.

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So try this one then.

Pan back for a sec and consider what the OP is saying. He’s arguing that women can “opt out” of pregnancy via abortion, a selfish, morally reprehensible decision. So men should have an equally morally reprehensible opt out option and be able to peace out on the kid and leave it to someone else (often you and I as taxpayers). All in the name of “fairness”.

Yes, this is weak shite. And that’s the kindest thing I can say about it.

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As if the man's sacrifice and labor to support said female does not warrant greater say.

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I honestly don’t care about the female or the male in this discussion. I care about the kid. Biological reality gives the woman an option that is not good for the kid. The OP wants to “balance the scales” by giving the man an option to also do something harmful to the kid. No idea how anyone can even be arguing this but yet here we are.

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The act to reproduce is in fact a 50/50 act. If your belief, you expose here, is correct, then men should be free to walk away scott free.

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Again, I’m arguing against giving men an opportunity to do something harmful to kids in the name of “fairness”.

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Your argument is akin to taxation without representation.

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My argument is that biology is biology and life isn’t fair. You want an opt out? Opt out of your urge to nut inside women who’s values don’t align with your own.

Yes but when the culture /society creates the words, because of common usage we all help form and shape what the word means.
That legitimate


when the government bureaucracy announces a word and forces its usage to mean what they say,, that's indoctrination

But if you're also choosing to have sex with us you ought to be obligated to carry our seed

Thats opting in


Extending your logic

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I'm not the one using the term fairness there is no such thing as fair

Fairness is a fantasy

But then you try to interject biology which is factual

To make a baby you need a fertilized egg that means the female provides the egg and the male provides the semen to fertilize the egg and make it the baby that means that entity is now a separate entity made up from contributions from two separate entities.

The body that is housing the egg, the fetus ,the baby does not have ownership of that creation because it took two things to create

Biology dictated that that's the way God made it but it would not be a baby if the man did not contribute what he needed to contribute to create that life, even if you're going to claim because the baby is in a woman's body and possession is 9/10 of the law

That one tenth ownership means it's not solely the womans



The post that you responded to I was merely using your exact same logic that men shouldn't have sex with women that don't agree with their values. t Then by the same logic these women shouldn't be lying down with men if the men don't share their values,
Now I'm sure you're probably thinking you're clever by saying men don't think about what might happen, And that's true women do have to put more thought into having sex because they are the ones that have to carry the result But they're carrying it It's not them they do not own it

Which are not 100% effective and if we're calling for people to be accountable for their actions, that includes being aware of the risk and the actions and accepting those risks and the related results