re: A 4chan user posted pics of dead woman he claimed he killed today

Mods. There's a thread from some Aussie newspaper that has the image attached of the discussion with unedited pics.

Def nsfw and very creepy.

They must have done it in the last couple hours. But why leave them up and just block out her privates? I guess at this point trying to take them down is pointless.

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fricking attention. We have created a world in which everyone wants attention... and we have given them a way to get it from the whole world. So now everyone must trump the last to get more attention... which leads to having to do more and more outlandish, crazy, sick, demented, etc things to gain the same amount of attention.

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History is filled with sick people and there really is no way to try to justify or explain why. They are just sick. Nothing more than that.

We are also currently living in the most peaceful time in history so stories like this seem out of the norm and make headlines. That toppled with how fast info travels now in the digital age and things like this get exposure faster.

Pre internet days this would just be another murder where it never left the local news.

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fricking attention. We have created a world in which everyone wants attention... and we have given them a way to get it from the whole world. So now everyone must trump the last to get more attention... which leads to having to do more and more outlandish, crazy, sick, demented, etc things to gain the same amount of attention.

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So you're blaming the guys from Jackass? I can get on board with this.

Would be a lot cheaper

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Yea I don't understand why we have to be so humane to inhumane people.

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because as a whole, we are still humane


i'm not anti capital punishment, but I dont think that torturing people as punishment or anything like that is something that this society needs

JMO

I honestly don't know what's worse. The actual murder or the comments on 4chan and reddit

by as a whole, i meant as a majority

i don't think thats really arguable

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by as a whole, i meant as a majority 

i don't think thats really arguable

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I'd be happy to argue it. You only think humans as a majority are humane because currently they are acting that way, and you live in America. The dominant world power with some of the safest living conditions and most well educated population. We as a country have grown soft and far too comfortable with ourselves. Our perception of the world has warped. It happens in every empire.

In actuality, in the real world, History has proven time and time again that humans will go along with pretty much anything no matter how gruesome or inhumane and our amazing gift of logic allows us to overcome the rational thoughts of empathy and compassion. Human sacrifice, slavery, wars, crusades, gladiators, Spanish inquisition, genocide, holocaust, Stalin, Hitler, Genghis Kahn, terrorists, Darfur, brutal warlords and dictators in large positions of Africa and the Middle East, North Korea, China, the list goes on and on.

Most things on that list were carried out by massive amounts of people within counties in plain sight of everyday civilians who never said a word or tried to stop it. Most things on that list were carried out logically to defend some ideal or to root out some perceived lesser-worth humans. Most of the things on that list we're carried out without the interference of people who had the power to stop it until it was too late or until the majority of the damage was already done.

Humans may act compassionate and sympathetic, philosophers may argue that we are all deep down humane and kind, but this is simply not true.

Thomas Hobbes put it best: When the circumstances are not under control and there is not political or otherwise power to restrain the human condition there is only one truth and that is the continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

Or maybe you prefer his quote personified in present pop culture:
"Their morals, their code... it's a bad joke. Dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you, when the chips are down, these... these civilized people? They'll eat each other."

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You only think humans as a majority are humane because currently they are acting that way, and you live in America. The dominant world power with some of the safest living conditions and most well educated population.

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outside of some pure shite holes, he's right

and the shite holes now are still a lot better than an average/solid place a few hundred years ago

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When the chips are down and there is not political or otherwise power to restrain the human condition there is only one truth and that is the continual fear, and danger of violent death; and the life of man, solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short.

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i agree, but humans haven't been in this state of nature for like 10,000 years

humanity was fundamentally different a millenia later, and when you look at contemporary shifting/change, we're nothing like we were even 400-500 years ago. democratic values and capitalism/free trade have fundamentally changed what being human is (for the better)