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re: 99 colleges have closed permanently in the past year

Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:38 am to
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
98945 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:38 am to
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I've been wondering for years why North Louisiana needed so many schools.


Those small towns barely exist without their school…..so we throw tax money at them
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27824 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:49 am to
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It’s going to get worse. A growing number of people can’t afford college and the ROI on degrees isn’t what it used to be.


It's more of a demographic problem. There are fewer people who usually go to college to fill the seats. Obviosuly, it's only going to get worse. As institutions fight over a dwindling population, you'll start seeing entrance requirements slide.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37534 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 6:59 am to
Expanding graduate curriculum.. cher!
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
43181 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:25 am to
That’s also a good point
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
20888 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:28 am to
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99 colleges have closed permanently in the past year


Good. Most of those students aren’t of the caliber that deserve a collegiate education.

Though, we do need to think as a society what to do with those kinds of citizens. If technology continues to make menial jobs obsolete, how many will need welfare to survive? Or do we want to allow “survival of the fittest” to actually carry out?
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39628 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:32 am to
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Xavier



Used to have a really great reputation...
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
10042 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:38 am to
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There are logistics dispatchers that have college degree required. wtf do you need a college degree for to plan a route for whatever vehicle and load is going out?


Supply chain management is a real thing, and it's a lot more complicated than people like to believe.

I'm not saying that dispatchers use them necessarily, but I think it's nice to know the person who is in charge of managing deliveries is educated and understands the bigger picture of what they're doing.

School is there as a prerequisite for a lot of jobs because employers want to know that you can have a goal and stick with it for 4 years.
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 7:39 am
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73610 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:38 am to
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I started at Auburn in 1964. Tuition was $100 per quarter. In constant dollars, that would be $1,015 today. My nephew is paying over 30k as an out of state student which doesn't include 1500 hours of flying in flight school.


College tuition started skyrocketing in the early 1980s…

Right about the same time as this was created…


Coincidence?

I think not.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
59172 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:41 am to
Louisiana should close lsu. Its a big waste of tax dollars considering we already have The University of Louisiana as the flagship
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
32244 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:58 am to
Bobby Jindal proposed combining SUNO with UNO, and the race hustlers came out of the woodwork screaming how dare he pick on a HBCU. Never mind that their graduation rate at the time was 4%. Louisiana has WAY too many 4 year universities, but legislators use the ones in their district as their personal playgrounds, and like every other decision that body makes, there’s enough horse trading to make sure state funds keep flowing into their local pork barrel.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
25821 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 7:59 am to
This is a good thing, we can all admit that.

Higher education is not for everyone, nor needed for most jobs. Having young people start their lives with student loan debt was a horrible decision.
Posted by Woodlands Tigah
Tejas
Member since Mar 2021
1046 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:11 am to
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Louisiana should close lsu. Its a big waste of tax dollars considering we already have The University of Louisiana as the flagship


You just kicked half of TD in the nuts!
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:44 am to
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Tech should be only 4-year public school in North LA. Keep NSU. Keep McNeese. Obviously, keep LSU. Keep SLU.

Convert some others to 2-year schools, funneled to the closest 4-year school. Close the rest. Consolidate 4-year schools to one administration.


I'm ok with tech and even ulm

the South LA I'm actually ok with them

the bigger things are things like SUNO and shitty-performing schools


but the biggest thing is the fricking bloat and the shite degrees

like McNeese should be concentrating everything into nursing, teaching, engineering and other STEM/business degrees that the local industry demands. i could even deal with ag science as we have lots of farmers

but the shite that gets on my nerves is lib art degrees, the gen studies, the food sciences, the mass comm, the natural resource management, the school librarian, theatre arts, the music degrees

and im picking on McNeese which is actually one of the better schools but there is tons of bloat across all the schools in the university of Louisiana system

pick 1 in the south, one in the north for those lib art degrees. Hell pic 1 in the south and 1 in nola but like ULL, McNeese, Nichols, Southeastern etc dont all need to be offering the same damn lib art degrees

replace that with more stem offerings and business stuff that is concentrated on area industry like McNeese is doing for the LNG center

If i had to choose though...

LSU, Tech of course stay open

so have Tech as the main school in north LA as it could handle Shreveport and Monroe. but i would be ok with keeping LSUS if it wasn't mainly lib arts

but like ulm, Grambling, Southern Shreveport...close them. hell i would be ok with tech and Grambling staying open if Grambling could get the grad rate above 40% within 4 years and above 50% in 8 years. Grambling should be trying to be a big-time HBCU along with Southern if they are going to stay open. stop accepting just anyone, that is stupid


but something has to change up north...you got tech, ulm, NSU, Grambling, LSUS, centenary, all as 4-year universities


BR-Nola has too many too.


if i was to actually choose

Keep tech, keep Grambling, keep McNeese, keep ull, keep lsu, keep uno, keep southeastern, southern, Nicholes

from there, we can discuss maybe keeping northwestern or one of the others and possibly closing some of those
Posted by SmogkDeizKnutz
Member since Feb 2023
559 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:49 am to
Here is an idea. Do away with a all schooling after high school.

Replace those degrees with actual certificates and licenses that are provided through certified employers that train students to employees under a training contract that extends into a work contract for repayment.
Posted by SpaceCamp
Member since Nov 2020
550 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:49 am to
Possibly specialized trade schools like cosmetology schools or CNA programs. Those are less than two years but still have to go through a certification process for credentialing and to be able to offer financial aid.
Posted by 610man
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
8324 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:52 am to
This is a stupid take, honestly, UNO would shut down before any HBCU
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11617 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:53 am to
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Colleges today are mostly either vocational schools or indoctrination centers


For the vast majority of students it’s about the same as ever, and not as exciting as angry politicians and MAGA make it out to be.

You go to classes, major in something, and get a job afterwards. Maybe meet a future spouse while there. Then occasionally wish you were still there the rest of your life.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58184 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:55 am to
Millsaps is taking a beating.

Millsaps used to be the only Phi Beta Kappa Chapter in the state so they got a lot of the smart kids. Enrollment was around 1,500.

Ole Miss and MSU opened up honors divisions. Now the smart kids can go to those schools for a comparable education on a full ride.

Millsaps refuses to change while its enrollment is now under 800.
Posted by TechBullDawg
Member since May 2014
2522 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 8:59 am to
Insane there's 3 HBCU schools in LA. Or that they exist anywhere.

Tech puts the most elite of them to shame

Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25700 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:14 am to
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Insane there's 3 HBCU schools in LA

Southern Baton Rouge, Southern New Orleans, Xavier University of Louisiana, Dillard University, Grambling

Xavier and Dillard are private though
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