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re: 99 colleges have closed permanently in the past year

Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:27 am to
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25699 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:27 am to
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LSU in BR has record enrollment for Fall, 2024

Interesting. I wonder how many are from out of state

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The freshman class is 62.2% female
This post was edited on 9/26/24 at 9:30 am
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:32 am to
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if you really want a civil war, that's the way to start one


LOL. It's going to happen. Not all of them of course, but they are among the lowest performing and also in the poorest financial shape.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:34 am to
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Southern Baton Rouge, Southern New Orleans, Xavier University of Louisiana, Dillard University, Grambling Xavier and Dillard are private though

Is Southern Shreveport not a HBCU or is it just that forgettable?

From driving around all over the state I noticed a while back, it seems like EVERY parish has a college of some sort. Just think about all those little speed trap towns. They all have some regional or vo-tech at least. The system is so watered down the “value” of these little podunk places has to be a negative figure.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:36 am to
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In other news, LSU in BR has record enrollment for Fall, 2024


Big southern universities are as healthy as they have ever been. Parents from all over the country are sending their kids to the south to escape liberal indoctrination and wokeness.

Sure, it exists some in the south, but is a fraction of what it is up north. Covid really opened a lot of eyes.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:43 am to
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Tech should be only 4 year public school in North LA. Keep NSU. Keep McNeese. Obviously keep LSU. Keep SLU.

Convert some others to 2 year schools, funneled to closest 4 year school. Close the rest. Consolidate 4 year schools to one administration.


ULM should stay open, but do a major downsize into mainly a nursing and pharmacy school, with perhaps some other specialties.

Grambling and Southern-Shreveport should close. LSUS should convert to a community college, or have only a very few specific majors.

The college/university system in Louisiana needs a major overhaul.
Posted by WRhodesTider
Birmingham, Al
Member since Nov 2005
953 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:45 am to
Two have recently closed in Alabama -- Birmingham-Southern and Judson. Birmingham-Southern was just a clear case of mismanagement over a couple of decades. Shouldn't have happened since it was a good school with many wealthy alumni. Don't know the specifics about Judson other than it was a very small, all-female, Baptist School in the middle of nowhere.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:55 am to
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Bobby Jindal proposed combining SUNO with UNO


That was his mistake. He should've just choked them out financially. Cut their funding and just let them die on the vine. You can't make an announcement like that.

You have to just gradually kill them over time.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
25699 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 9:58 am to
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Is Southern Shreveport not a HBCU or is it just that forgettable?

Have lived in Louisiana for 35 years and never heard of it
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
7051 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:00 am to
It’s a start.
Posted by hubreb
Member since Nov 2008
2131 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:01 am to
there is a giant number of small private colleges - d3 and naia that cater to rich people with kids that want to play "college" sports but aren't good enough to play at legitimate schools...they are super expensive and then they say we'll give you a huge percentage off to play sports at the school...my kid got contacted by several for lacrosse - looking into the school and 80% plus of students were athletes and graduation rates were sub 15%
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103968 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:02 am to
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The college/university system in Louisiana needs a major overhaul.


Which won’t happen because the legislature will raise holy hell. It’s a jobs program to various parishes across the state.


While we need the Two Bobs to come in and identify what each school is good at to determine what should be kept, a bunch of schools like SUNO and Grambling would get the “What exactly do you do here?” talk and then racism accusations.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:03 am to
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Have lived in Louisiana for 35 years and never heard of it

A quick search shows it is just a 2year program campus. Lots of associate degree programs.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
35492 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:03 am to
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Is Southern Shreveport not a HBCU or is it just that forgettable?


It is technically, but it's only a two-year school.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20241 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:12 am to
I really want to start a high-end trade school. An Ivy League version of trade school. Best of the best.

It won't make money for years, but eventually it will be the go-to option when the college degree bubble bursts and we are an established trade school with a great reputation.

Carpentry, automotive, electrical, plumbing, etc.
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32529 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:21 am to
Oh no!!!! Not Presentation College in South Dakota or Iowa Wesleyan!!!! Bring them back!!!!
Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32392 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:23 am to
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The King’s College in New York


a girl from our school went there. it closed down the semester before she graduated.

she had to finish online to get her diploma, but it was the last graduating class.
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
7951 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 10:39 am to
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stupid take...uno before any HBCU


Do you SUNO bro?

Show me where southern or gambling outperform UNO in anything. Any standardized test.
LSAT scores.
MCAT scores.

Etc etc

Even private like Xavier barely stays accredited with their marquee Pharmacy program.

GTFO

HBCUs cannot compete on a level field.
They should be shuttered.
Waste of money.
Posted by McVick
Member since Jan 2011
4616 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:16 am to
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Oh no!!!! Not Presentation College in South Dakota or Iowa Wesleyan!!!! Bring them back!!!!


Funny you mentioned Iowa Wesleyan. It reminded me of an article published in the Chronicle of Higher Education a couple of months back. That was one of the schools that, as a result of their closure, their assets were taken over by the USDA. Why the USDA? Because the school applied for a Community Facilities Direct Loan & Grant Program offered through that department. Colleges in rural areas could apply for a loan from the US government to do things like build a new student activity center or a new dormitory, or renovate currently existing buildings on their campus. However, if the school defaulted on the loan or closed up then the USDA assumes ownership of the campus. Not just the part that was used for the loan, but all of campus.

Under this program, about half of the $2.2 billion given to colleges and universities were to colleges in the Great Lakes and Southeast regions. Iowa Wesleyan received $26 million in 2016 under this program, even after major cuts to programs, faculty, and operations in 2014. The enrollment numbers didn't get better, they kept operating at a loss year after year, and finally closed their doors within the past 12 months. As a result, the USDA took responsibility of the physical campus. Recently a large portion was sold off to a local school district for $1.25 million.
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
23906 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:20 am to

I was in grad courses at UNO, and the environment there is so much different than it was years ago.

UNO was doing everything it can to keep people in school and paying. Their total enrollment was a little more than half what it was pre-Katrina.

30+ years ago, universities didn’t care if you flunked out. There were people on a wait list to get in.
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
38031 posts
Posted on 9/26/24 at 11:58 am to
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Here is an idea. Do away with a all schooling after high school.

Replace those degrees with actual certificates and licenses that are provided through certified employers that train students to employees under a training contract that extends into a work contract for repayment.


so engineers, doctors, lawyers should learn from an employer?
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