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re: 57% of Tommy John surgeries in USA performed on 15-19 year olds .
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:01 pm to UpToPar
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:01 pm to UpToPar
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If this were the case, you would see a significantly larger portion of US players getting TJ vs. players from the DR and other latin american countries. That's not the case.
so there are more TJ surgeries performed in the DR and other latin american countries?
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:02 pm to UpToPar
quote:This is usually my main point in these threads. It’s not “bad” mechanics that are causing more arm problems; it’s actually “good” mechanics. We know how to get young kids to throw really hard. Theres so much data involved that they are being taught how to maximize speed earlier and earlier. It’s not quantity that is causing the uptick. It’s the quality. A kid who is 16, throwing 90 mph 25 times an outing is more damaging than the same kid throwing 85 mph 50 times.
2) the emphasis on velocity and spin rates are just not compatible with biometrics. This is not really a symptom of travel ball as much as it is a symptom of technological advances at the MLB and college level that have trickled down into youth baseball that have pushed athletes beyond physical limitations.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:05 pm to Topwater Trout
It's about the same as the US.
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That 16 percent of pitchers from the US had undergone Tommy John surgery – as had 16 percent of pitchers from the Dominican, and 16 percent from all Latin American countries.
“We saw no difference,” Conte said. “At the end of the day, when you look at who has had Tommy John surgeries, country doesn’t seem to have a significant importance.
“Whether they come from the Dominican or the United States, it looks like they’re all kind of getting it at some point – overall, major and minor leagues, about 16 percent.”
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:07 pm to ell_13
Yep. The human body was just not designed to throw a baseball 95+ mph.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:07 pm to Pooswa
Major ortho guy down over here at the Andrews Center had a kid that played baseball with us. He refused to let his kid pitch until middle school and very limited then.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:07 pm to UpToPar
I am thinking the DR and other Latin american countries probably play year round also
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:09 pm to Crab trapper12
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Comes with being an athlete. I had ACL repair surgery at 17. Don’t be soft
Nothing says “I’m badass” like mommy and daddy’s insurance paying for TJ surgery
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:11 pm to UpToPar
Some are. The problem is that there aren't many of them in this country but everyone thinks their kid is Paul Skenes.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:15 pm to Pooswa
I had it when I was 16. That was before "travel ball", but we did have Legion ball and showcases. Still played in college and got drafted. If you pitch, it's not uncommon. And most pitchers are in that age group
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:18 pm to No Colors
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Expecting multiple offers by this time next year.
Partial scholarship to Mississippi College for Women. Excuse me, Mississippi Brightwell College.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:20 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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The problem is that there aren't many of them in this country but everyone thinks their kid is Paul Skenes.
Ironically, 2 years ago people would have laughed at Paul Skenes or his parents if they told someone that he was going to pitch in the MLB. He is perhaps the poster child of how far we've come in understanding the biometrics of throwing a baseball hard. Unfortunately, he very well may require TJ at some point in the near future.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:20 pm to Krane
You’re right I should’ve paid for it
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:21 pm to UpToPar
Mickey Mantle had the ACL delete done and still reached legendary status. Kids don't need elbows
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:22 pm to Gaston
quote:been that way since I was in high school in 2010
Son brought home two baseball hats for his school’s team today…and wow, how did that sport go flat bill?
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:25 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Lake Charles
Barbe vs the world
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:31 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Major ortho guy down over here at the Andrews Center had a kid that played baseball with us. He refused to let his kid pitch until middle school and very limited then.
INB4 LSU777 tells you that kid not matter how talented will never make his high school team and that dr is wrong.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:33 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Major ortho guy down over here at the Andrews Center had a kid that played baseball with us. He refused to let his kid pitch until middle school and very limited then.
Is his kid in The Show?
Didn’t think so
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:43 pm to Crab trapper12
If you would’ve that would’ve been pretty badass
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:51 pm to Pooswa
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Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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