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Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:57 pm to TJG210
quote:two things. Not playing travel ball does not mean your son can’t be a high level baseball player, especially if he’s been an active kid in life already playing other sports and the most important factor no matter what, how good of genes he has. If he’s a specimen it won’t really matter how much baseball he’s played before.
Major ortho guy down over here at the Andrews Center had a kid that played baseball with us. He refused to let his kid pitch until middle school and very limited then. INB4 LSU777 tells you that kid not matter how talented will never make his high school team and that dr is wrong.
There was a kid I know that didn’t start playing baseball until his 10th grade year but had been a qb all his life so had been used to throwing a ball and he was 6’5 235 and the only reason he played was because he was goofing around one day in the field house when it was raining and the baseball boys were on there, he picks up a baseball and throws it in the air to the other end of the field house, at least 300 feet in the air. This is in November, HC sees it tells him he can turn him into a PO and next thing you know kid is throwing mid to upper 80s as a senior and ends up playing D2 baseball going farther than he ever would have in football.
The 2nd point though is that 777tiger is right, most kids unles they are a freak athlete like I described above are going to get passed up if they don’t play travel ball because the travel ball kids play more and believe it or not the more you do something matters, and secondly as well as most importantly, that is where the majority of kids who are worth a frick end up playing by the time they are in middle school at least, and it’s been that way for years now. Having said all that I’m sure it’s not healthy for some of these kids arms to play as much as they do and plenty of kids have gotten burn out or arms ruined because of travel ball.
I don’t doubt your ortho friend put the health of his sons arm over his potential pro career, but that doesn’t mean it was the best decision in terms of his boy being a better ball player, it just means he chose what would most likely give his son a better arm long term regardless of the sport of baseball and that was almost certainly the right decision by him because although his kid may not ever be able to start on his high school baseball team odds are no matter what he wasn’t making it to the mlb either
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 6:50 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 4:58 pm to BeepNode
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The AA teams are riding pitchers out to 150+ pitches in a weekend. I've seen a kid pitch complete games both saturday and sunday and also do relief.
How did they circumvent the pitch or inning restrictions that every single affiliation puts on kids? I've coached and whoever was putting it on (USSSA, PG, 2D, whatever) kept close tabs on it.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:01 pm to Pooswa
I actually expected higher. Unless you plan on continuing to play baseball, it makes no sense to get TJ.
The total number would be more useful information
The total number would be more useful information
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:12 pm to LSUballs
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This post was edited on 1/23/24 at 11:01 am
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:16 pm to Pooswa
That’s with pitch counts in place now as well, baseball is a great sport just don’t pitch but if you do avoid throwing it 99 or off speed
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:31 pm to Pooswa
Conspiracy theory: the majority of these kids don’t really need Tommy John surgery. The doctors performing the operations are driving around in cybertrucks and vacationing in the south of France. This is the same industry that knowingly will get someone addicted to painkillers for a payday. They will definitely cut open a kids arm to keep living that sweet life
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:33 pm to Rip Torner
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avoid throwing it 99 or off speed
Man I been telling everybody I can throw gas but I just don't wanna hurt my elbow. Glad I aint the only one.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:47 pm to Pooswa
You’re poor if your son doesn’t play travel ball and hasn’t got a Tommy john surgery
Posted on 1/9/24 at 5:48 pm to BobABooey
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Better than Elton John surgery
Does that happen from wacking off your boyfriend? Asking for a friend
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:06 pm to UpToPar
quote:Legitimate question here. At what point did he start throwing at such high velocity? IIRC, his velocity took a big jump in the brief time he was at LSU. I have a suspicion he wasn't throwing high velocity in his earlier years. Nothing against the Air Force Academy, but if he was, he prolly wouldn't have ended up somewhere other than the AFA. A big factor in the need for TJ surgery seems to be high velocity in young, still growing/developing arms.
He is perhaps the poster child of how far we've come in understanding the biometrics of throwing a baseball hard. Unfortunately, he very well may require TJ at some point in the near future.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:36 pm to Loup
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Why is the surgery named after a sandwich shop?
I thought it was an underwear company??
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:41 pm to SomethingLikeA
It’s the brand of comfortable shirts I wear
Posted on 1/9/24 at 7:44 pm to Chad504boy
usually dont tear a ucl at that age the growth plate will fracture first
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:17 pm to Pooswa
I had some FSA left over at the end of 2009 and went ahead and let both my kids get it. They didn’t need it, but it’s kind of like chicken pox. Much better to go ahead and get it out of the way when you’re young.
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:30 pm to Pooswa
When a baseball pitcher speaks to you idiots that want your kid to play year around baseball in his HALL OF FAME SPEECH doesn’t get your attention nothing will because you are dumb!
Posted on 1/9/24 at 8:40 pm to Pooswa
How many kids aged 15-19 play baseball? A few million?
How many people aged 20-40 still play baseball? 50k? Idk.
How many people aged 20-40 still play baseball? 50k? Idk.
This post was edited on 1/9/24 at 8:41 pm
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