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re: $500,000 bond for suspect in 'Big Lee' Martin killing
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:10 am to Champagne
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:10 am to Champagne
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Could go to trial nd have it wrapped up in appeals until he dies
This whole "appeals" thing is nonsense. In order to appeal a court case that means it has to be ruled upon by a judge/jury. So that means he would have to be convicted of some thing, murder 2 or manslaughter. THEN he would be able to appeal that ruling. But sentencing would still proceed as normal and he would still end up in jail for however long while the appeals process played out. So regardless the guys going to jail and is probably going to die in prison. Regardless if he pleads to manslaughter, he still will be in there to the point of his death.
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 10:12 am
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Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:11 am to TigerJeff
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Remove the gun and two lives aren't destroyed. We are sick.
Add the gun an many more female lives aren't destroyed. #Perspective #TakeYourPussyOpinionToThePoliBoard
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:16 am to Hammertime
quote:A guy with flames on his truck and an NRA sticker
What kind of a-hole walks around his yard strapped all day?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 10:57 am to lsupride87
Don't forget the search lights on each A pillar
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:12 pm to poptart_1225
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This whole "appeals" thing is nonsense. In order to appeal a court case that means it has to be ruled upon by a judge/jury. So that means he would have to be convicted of some thing, murder 2 or manslaughter. THEN he would be able to appeal that ruling. But sentencing would still proceed as normal and he would still end up in jail for however long while the appeals process played out. So regardless the guys going to jail and is probably going to die in prison. Regardless if he pleads to manslaughter, he still will be in there to the point of his death.
Well, thanks for educating the board because we weren't sure whether a guy who pleads guilty to manslaughter or murder 2 can return to his community pending the exhaustion of his appeals. It didn't make sense to me that the La. courts would return a definite killer and possibly unstable and dangerous gun-toter to his neighbors and his community until exhaustion of all appeals, but, some poster said it could happen so we considered it.
Thanks for clearing it up.
We now know this: Even La. law is not so incredibly stupid as to return a known killer who uses firearms to kill and intimidate his neighbors and his community to that same community pending the exhaustion of all of his appeals. Higgins will sit in jail pending the exhaustion of his appeals.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:14 pm to TigerJeff
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Remove the gun and two lives aren't destroyed. We are sick.
Would you shut the frick up and get out of this thread? You made your lame fricking point, OK? Your argument is totally illogical and stupid and we reject it in a loud voice, OK?
You can stop repeating your own stupid argument here, OK?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:19 pm to WPBTiger
BIg lee is a god. Anyone who disrespects him will be haunted by his ghost
Posted on 5/9/18 at 12:33 pm to Champagne
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We will see. You never know how a man reacts in this set of circumstances. Most don't have the huge, dice-rolling balls that they always tell people that they have, and they plead guilty to a lesser charge.
This is What I'm thinking. He's sitting in a cell, meeting with his lawyers, and probably in shock still over what happened. The enormity of it is probably starting to hit him.
Once it at sets in I would guess he'll decide to plead and get it over with than endure the misery of a trial which his lawyer is probably telling him he won't win anyway. Especially since he's being represented by a court appointed attorney.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 5:12 pm to EarlyCuyler3
I passed by Big Lee's house today.
The LSU lawn ornaments are gone as well as the white Ford pickup with the Big Lee and LSU logos on it.
I live in that general area of Metairie and I don't ever remember that truck not parked in his driveway where everyone driving down Bonnabel sees it.
The LSU lawn ornaments are gone as well as the white Ford pickup with the Big Lee and LSU logos on it.
I live in that general area of Metairie and I don't ever remember that truck not parked in his driveway where everyone driving down Bonnabel sees it.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 5:17 pm to Tino
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You don’t seem to understand the meaning of cold blooded murder.
I understand what cold-blooded murder is. You don't get out and kill someone just because they shot some water at your vehicle. Since it seems as if they had problems in the past, it could be argued that the neighbor had thought about killing him for some time, which means it would be premeditated.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 5:22 pm to OweO
He was pissed that Lee sprayed him with the water hose, he got out the truck and shot him bc he was angry. That’s not murdering someone in cold blood
Eta, if he was just finally tired of Lee’s shite and walked over to him while Lee was taking out the trash and shot him, that would be cold blooded murder
Eta, if he was just finally tired of Lee’s shite and walked over to him while Lee was taking out the trash and shot him, that would be cold blooded murder
This post was edited on 5/9/18 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 5/9/18 at 5:27 pm to Tino
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He was pissed that Lee sprayed him with the water hose, he got out the truck and shot him bc he was angry. That’s not murdering someone in cold blood
Again, I said you can make an argument. If the two of them didn't have a history and he sprayed water at his truck, would he have jumped out and shot him? Was he angry because someone sprayed his truck with water or was he angry Lee sprayed his truck with water? If he was angry Lee sprayed his truck with water, then was it only a matter of time before he killed Lee and that was the time?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 5:30 pm to OweO
Idk. I can’t speak for the what if’s of others. But the actual facts we know are that there was an altercation and the old man shot Lee, therefore it’s not some premeditated, cold blooded killing
Posted on 5/9/18 at 5:38 pm to fightin tigers
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In this thread OweO has said the killer won't go to prison and also that he will be sentenced to 99 years. Literally 6 posts apart from each other.
Disregard everything he says. He is talking out his non-functioning a-hole.
It was 5 post, but when I said "from what I read others say about Big Lee, if this case goes to trial the shooter will get off" was somewhat of a joke. I was just saying it seems like everyone wasn't that fond of him and I stated that it reminds me of the movie "Bernie". I didn't state my opinion, I was just making a statement.
Then I gave a "in reality" post in which I said that no matter what. One man got out of his truck to shoot another man, who died from being shot.
I stated that it was cold-blooded murder. Why? Because it is one thing to be angry. He could have gotten out of his truck and had a physical altercation with him. He could have done a number of things, however; he made the conscience decision to use his gun.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 5:42 pm to Tino
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But the actual facts we know are that there was an altercation and the old man shot Lee
We know that Lee sprayed his truck with water. He then decided to get out of his truck, with his gun and then shoot Lee.
If he didn't intend on shooting Lee then why did he bring his gun?
It's is debatable as to whether it was cold-blooded murder.. But I think a stronger argument can be made that it was.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 5:52 pm to Red Stick Tigress
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Shooter had fight with neighbor on the other side of him in 2014. He's not the helpless old man. Seems like he liked to bully people too.
This is something everyone is overlooking. Big Lee might have been the junior bully/douchbag on the street.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 6:10 pm to OweO
Jesus, he got out the truck with the gun to shoot Lee bc he was pissed about being sprayed with the water hose. He was reacting to being sprayed, which means this wasnt some kinda master plan to murder Lee.
Posted on 5/9/18 at 7:47 pm to Tino
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Jesus, he got out the truck with the gun to shoot Lee bc he was pissed about being sprayed with the water hose. He was reacting to being sprayed, which means this wasnt some kinda master plan to murder Lee.
He got out with the gun.. Why would you get out with a gun if you don't plan on using it?
Posted on 5/9/18 at 8:07 pm to OweO
He planned on using it. There is no question of that
Are you trying to say it was premitated bc he got out of the truck with the gun to shoot him?
Are you trying to say it was premitated bc he got out of the truck with the gun to shoot him?
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