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re: $4.20 You are killing us Biden

Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:54 am to
Posted by DiscountedCashFlow
Member since May 2022
243 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:54 am to
I'm not sure I'd agree with this.

The economic literature on this suggests oil is a global commodity. The US is a large oil producer but supply has increased significantly since pandemic lows. US oil production hasn't decreased enough to significantly affect global supply.

Oil prices are up significantly across the globe. I don't think Biden is that responsible for oil prices increasing - it seems to be much more of a global problem.

US EIA

Looking at US oil production versus worldwide oil production, the decline in oil production seems to be from OPEC countries, not the US.

I can't understand why Biden would be responsible for OPEC production declining. In short, the decline seems to have come from OPEC countries and this decline has not yet been 'recovered'.

As a result, demand has surged while production has declined. This has resulted in oil prices rising - to blame Biden would not be a fully comprehensive analysis.
This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 7:57 am
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
69049 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:54 am to
When has was high under Bush we were told the president had nothing to do with the price of oil.

When the economy crashed under Bush we were told the president had nothing to do with that.

When the Economy recovered under Obama the president had nothing to do with that.

When gas prices were so cheap in 2014 that people were bitching about losing jobs. The president was to blame.

When gas got high again in 2017 it wasn't the presidents fault. But when they dropped the next year it was him we thanked.



Gas prices are set on a global oil price. This with memories and brains can see the spin..

Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66700 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:55 am to
quote:

You dont think it's both? Shell recorded their highest Q1 profit in history. Why would they invest in more drilling when the market as is maximizes profit?


bruh.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1121 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:55 am to
quote:

Romans 13:1-2
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment


This is a misrepresented interpretation. The KJB has a more accurate translation which refers to "governing authorities" as clergy, i.e. Pope, Cardinal, Bishop etc...

But if you want to be obtuse and support the potato-in-chief (AKA - Puppet-in-Chief), you will be judged harshly and found to be foolish.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
29982 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:56 am to
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That's because you don't understand economics either. Their profit margins are extremely low.


Multiple posts on this page suggest a lack of understanding of economics and the oil and gas industry.

This most recent move to cancel federal lease sales is the most troubling thing I have seen lately. If they will do it in the midst of the current situation, they really reveal their hand, IMO.

If I recall correctly, you live in Alaska, don't you? How do folks in your neck of the woods feel about that Roger? I suspect there is some real consternation amongst some and probably elation in others.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84060 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:56 am to
quote:

When has was high under Bush we were told the president had nothing to do with the price of oil.

When the economy crashed under Bush we were told the president had nothing to do with that.

When the Economy recovered under Obama the president had nothing to do with that.

When gas prices were so cheap in 2014 that people were bitching about losing jobs. The president was to blame.

When gas got high again in 2017 it wasn't the presidents fault. But when they dropped the next year it was him we thanked.



Gas prices are set on a global oil price. This with memories and brains can see the spin..




The fricking fairy tales you lefties believe Who is this "we" you refer to? Certainly not the MSM.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
118922 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:56 am to
He doesn't pay for his own gas. No democrat does.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
3865 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:57 am to
frick all the prog filth who voted for this....



Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52763 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:57 am to
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Add to that the stock market is tanking. Another thing lefties will tell you the President can’t help.



Just wait for the food shortages. I think i read somewhere that 8 major food processing plants have mysteriously caught fire.
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:57 am to
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bruh

Shell probably understands OPEC won't keep their production down forever. They are just gonna sit and enjoy the boom rather than get burned like they did when opec flooded the market last time
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37437 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:58 am to
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Well their profits went from $3 billion Q1 last year to over $9 billion this year. So your position is they sold 3x more oil and the margin remained the same?


Oil is 3x where it was in 2019. If their margins stayed the same, I’d expect their profits on that to triple.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37437 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 7:59 am to
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When the Economy recovered under Obama the president had nothing to do with that.


When was this?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52763 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:00 am to
quote:

When the Economy recovered under Obama the president had nothing to do with that.




Hey, if you want to claim Obama's "recovery" as a win for you, go ahead. It was the slowest recovery out of a recession in the history of the country. So much so, that it got Donald Trump elected President.

Me and the other MAGA types will take the Trump economy over the Obama economy any day of the week.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52763 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:01 am to
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When was this?


The really fun part, is when you ask him what specific Obama era policies led to this so-called "recovery".
Posted by sgallo3
Dorne
Member since Sep 2008
24747 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:01 am to
quote:

Oil is 3x where it was in 2019. If their margins stayed the same, I’d expect their profits on that to triple.

Unless costs and price increased by the same amount their margins didnt stay the same

Are you talking about production margins or price margin?
This post was edited on 5/13/22 at 8:02 am
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9713 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:01 am to
It’s corporate greed!!!!!!!!!!! Not potat… I mean Biden’s fault.

This has absolutely nothing to do with printing money we don’t have and canceling as many leases for oil as possible.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71339 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:02 am to
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Shut up and blindly hand over $40 billion to Ukraine, racist!



Rand Paul has Twitter resurfacing that old clip of McCain calling him a Putin supporter. John McCain couldn't kill US Soldiers fast enough to feed his MIC bank account.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
1982 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:02 am to
This is how Democrats get the poor to pay their fair share of the taxes.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
66700 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:03 am to
not to mention all the big O&G companies have sold off low profit assets and done everything they can to become leaner in the last 3-4 years.
Posted by AllDayEveryDay
Nawf Tejas
Member since Jun 2015
7007 posts
Posted on 5/13/22 at 8:04 am to
What's really going to piss you off is that a down turn in oil production is likely due to lack of material, and the cost of the material they can find.

A down turn, at $100/barrel. Who would have thought.
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