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22 Years Ago Today TWA Flight 800 Went Down
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:23 pm
TWA Flight 800, a 747 from JFK bound for Paris and then on to Rome. The incident has been surrounded by controversy. Was it hit by a missle as several eye witnesses said, or was it flaw design in the fuel tanks?
This accident and 9/11 spelled the end of TWA.
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This accident and 9/11 spelled the end of TWA.
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Trans World Airlines Flight 800 (TWA 800) was a Boeing 747-100 that exploded and crashed into the Atlantic Ocean near East Moriches, New York, on July 17, 1996, at about 8:31 p.m. EDT, 12 minutes after takeoff from John F. Kennedy International Airport on a scheduled international passenger flight to Rome, with a stopover in Paris. All 230 people on board perished in the third-deadliest aviation accident in U.S. history. Accident investigators from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) traveled to the scene, arriving the following morning amid speculation that a terrorist attack was the cause of the crash. Consequently, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and New York Police Department (FBI-NYPD) Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) initiated a parallel criminal investigation. Sixteen months later, the JTTF announced that no evidence had been found of a criminal act and closed its active investigation
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:24 pm to RedFoxx
that thing's gonna need a shite ton of bondo !
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:24 pm to RedFoxx
I was working the midnight shift at the Baton Rouge airport when that crash occurred. Shook me up big time
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:26 pm to Klingler7
How you holdin up?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:26 pm to Klingler7
It could have been you.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:27 pm to RedFoxx
CSB: My Dad once worked at the hangar used to piece the aircraft back together. It was used to build F-14's
RIP Grumman Aerospace in NY
RIP Grumman Aerospace in NY
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:28 pm to J Murdah
I was working weather aviation and I was glued to CNN all night.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:39 pm to RedFoxx
That plane is in better shape than some of the United Express Embraers that fly back and forth from IAH to LFT.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 3:46 pm to 3deadtrolls
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That plane is in better shape than some of the United Express Embraers that fly back and forth from IAH to LFT.
Allegiant would roll that sucker out tonight
Posted on 7/17/18 at 4:08 pm to RedFoxx
This happened on my birthday --- and throw in the police shootings in 2016 in BR and well, I feel like it's a cursed day.
(Was JFK, Jr on the 16? Think they found the wreckage on the 17 -- it was my 30th.)
(Was JFK, Jr on the 16? Think they found the wreckage on the 17 -- it was my 30th.)
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 4:12 pm to RedFoxx
I don’t think it was a design or manufacturing defect...or at least not the one stated in the findings.
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:26 pm to member12
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I don’t think it was a design or manufacturing defect...or at least not the one stated in the findings.
Agreed. More of a "procedural" flaw, but quite difficult to foresee.
The 25+ year old wiring of that aircraft arced a high-voltage line into the wiring of the low-voltage fuel-level meter of the center fuel tank.
Center fuel tank was nearly empty, but FULL of vapors. Had there been more fuel, oddly enough, no problem. Or if nitrogen-purged.
Add the air conditioner mechanism, which gets ridiculously hot, right by that tank, and a hot July extended period on the tarmac and all the ingredients for what happened.
The conspiracy (and cover-up) theories have been debunked, at least to most reasonable open-minded folks. Just a really terrible accident on a really old bird of a dying airline.
You can even "hear" the arcing on the CVR/FDR about 1-2 seconds before the tank exploded.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:27 pm to RedFoxx
It’ll buff out.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:31 pm to Pettifogger
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Allegiant would roll that sucker out tonight
Allegiant is ValueJet waiting to happen...tick...tick...tick
Posted on 7/17/18 at 6:31 pm to RedFoxx
From Wiki:
I was on a flight back from Athens, Greece (to Kennedy) that SAME day. I had just gotten out of HS and took a trip to the Greek islands for the summer.
I heard on the news later that this plane had been flying back from Athens (before it took off from Kennedy and exploded on the way to Rome). I was freaked out the plane had been coming from Athens at the same time my flight was.
I flew Delta, though.
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On the day of the accident, the airplane departed from Ellinikon International Airport in Athens, Greece as TWA Flight 881 and arrived at John F. Kennedy.
I was on a flight back from Athens, Greece (to Kennedy) that SAME day. I had just gotten out of HS and took a trip to the Greek islands for the summer.
I heard on the news later that this plane had been flying back from Athens (before it took off from Kennedy and exploded on the way to Rome). I was freaked out the plane had been coming from Athens at the same time my flight was.
I flew Delta, though.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 6:36 pm to RedFoxx
SO's older brother was an FBI agent in the NY field office at the time and was on the dive team that worked the crash site. I dont know him well and have never talked with him about it but I can tell you he's the most emotionally shut down dude I have ever been around.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 7:39 pm to RedFoxx
So whatever happened to all the wreckage in that hanger? Is it still there?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:03 pm to JPinLondon
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Or if nitrogen-purged
as a result, the feds issued SFAR88 requiring a nitrogen generation system to pump nitrogen-enriched air to the center tank to prevent combustion. It's a huge expense with questionable effectiveness but it's been standard equipment on military aircraft for years.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:06 pm to Giantkiller
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whatever happened to all the wreckage in that hanger? Is it still there?
It's at a NTSB hanagar in suburban DC.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 8:07 pm to RedFoxx
I'm not a big conspiracy theorist, but it is this one "accident" that I don't subscribe to the government's answer.
How come other planes hadn't gone down because of something similar? Certainly this wasn't the first plane like this to fly with that level of fuel in the center tanks
How come other planes hadn't gone down because of something similar? Certainly this wasn't the first plane like this to fly with that level of fuel in the center tanks
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