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re: 2018 was Earth's 4th hottest year on record
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:16 am to Grim
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:16 am to Grim
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Once again, the world was unusually hot in 2018. In fact, on average it was the fourth-hottest year around the planet since modern record-keeping began in 1880.
If evolution is to be believed, we have data from 138/4,500,000,000 years. (less than 0.0000001%)
I’m no scientist, but doesn’t that seem like a useful data set to make any kind of solid hypothesis.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:21 am to hojo
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Salmon, I didn't imply that the US wasn't a problem
Eh. You kinda did. Don't play dumb.
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but our overall emissions are going down. China and India dgaf.
India isn't that big of a deal.
China is the top dog and by a lot.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:22 am to Grim
Reading these threads is always like a Who's Who of underachievers in elementary science.
But, but, muh earth always goes through climate cycles!
Yes, dum dums, everyone, especially the scientists, knows this.
But, but, muh earth always goes through climate cycles!
Yes, dum dums, everyone, especially the scientists, knows this.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:24 am to Teague
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But, but, muh earth always goes through climate cycles!
Yes, dum dums, everyone, especially the scientists, knows this.
Yeah. That is always my favorite strawman.
Nobody denies the Earth doesn't go through cycles.
It is the rate of change that is the concern.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:28 am to Salmon
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Slow it down or at least stop the bleeding? I think we can. Maybe not with today's technology, but in future I believe we will be able to capture our emissions much more effectively.
I agree with this.
This NYT article is particularly troublesome I find because it hints that in order to see drastic changers to curb global warming the US will have to take a hit economically.
NYTimes
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As United States manufacturing boomed, for instance, emissions from the nation’s industrial sectors — including steel, cement, chemicals and refineries — increased by 5.7 percent. Policymakers working on climate change at the federal and state level have so far largely shied away from regulating heavy industry, which directly contributes about one-sixth of the country’s carbon emissions. Instead, they’ve focused on decarbonizing the electricity sector through actions like promoting wind and solar power.
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But, as America’s economy expanded last year, trucking and air travel also grew rapidly, leading to a 3 percent increase in diesel and jet fuel use and spurring an overall rise in transportation emissions for the year. Air travel and freight have also attracted less attention from policymakers to date and are considered much more difficult to electrify or decarbonize.
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But if the world wants to avert the most dire effects of global warming, major industrialized countries, including the United States, will have to cut their fossil-fuel emissions much more drastically than they are currently doing.
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“The U.S. has led the world in emissions reductions in the last decade thanks in large part to cheap gas displacing coal,” said Jason Bordoff, director of the Center on Global Energy Policy at Columbia University, who was not involved in the analysis. “But that has its limits, and markets alone will not deliver anywhere close to the pace of decarbonization needed without much stronger climate policy efforts that are unfortunately stalled if not reversed under the Trump administration.”
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:36 am to Grim
If human-created climate change is a global problem, akin to a mile-wide asteroid heading toward the earth, that will ultimately affect the perpetuality of our species within the next century, then the nations of the world should task their best and brightest, in unity, to devise a method or methods (cold fusion, ambient temperature superconductivity, hydrogen fuel cells, etc.) to generate effectively and cost-efficiently clean power without patent, with all costs to attain this capability pro-rated in a fair and equitable manner to all countries of the world.
Until this happens, the whole premise is a sham.
Until this happens, the whole premise is a sham.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:37 am to Grim
termites
Termite and Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Facts:
Scientists have calculated that termites alone produce ten times as much carbon dioxide as all the fossil fuels burned in the whole world in a year.
Pound for pound, the weight of all the termites in the world is greater than the total weight of humans.
Scientists estimate that, worldwide, termites may release over 150 million tons of methane gas into the atmosphere annually. In our lower atmosphere this methane then reacts to form carbon dioxide and ozone.
It is estimated that for every human on Earth there may be 1000 pounds of termites.
On the average Termites expel gas composed of about 59% nitrogen, 21% hydrogen, 9% carbon dioxide, 7% methane, and 4% oxygen.
Also, I don't trust land based measurements. Balloons and satellites tell a different tale.
Termite and Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Facts:
Scientists have calculated that termites alone produce ten times as much carbon dioxide as all the fossil fuels burned in the whole world in a year.
Pound for pound, the weight of all the termites in the world is greater than the total weight of humans.
Scientists estimate that, worldwide, termites may release over 150 million tons of methane gas into the atmosphere annually. In our lower atmosphere this methane then reacts to form carbon dioxide and ozone.
It is estimated that for every human on Earth there may be 1000 pounds of termites.
On the average Termites expel gas composed of about 59% nitrogen, 21% hydrogen, 9% carbon dioxide, 7% methane, and 4% oxygen.
Also, I don't trust land based measurements. Balloons and satellites tell a different tale.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:38 am to Grim
Im not trying to get into a global warming argument with anyone but the keywords here are “on record.”
How long have they been keeping meteorological records? Since the 1880s? I’m just guessing because I know it hasn’t been a very long time.
Am I the only one that understands how small amount of time that is in the grand scheme of things? It’s microscopic.
How do these records compare to the rest of history? Have we ever been this hot BEFORE they started record keeping?
How long have they been keeping meteorological records? Since the 1880s? I’m just guessing because I know it hasn’t been a very long time.
Am I the only one that understands how small amount of time that is in the grand scheme of things? It’s microscopic.
How do these records compare to the rest of history? Have we ever been this hot BEFORE they started record keeping?
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:39 am to Grim
Wow. There are a bunch of people triggered by simply being told the temperature. Interesting.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:40 am to Teague
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Reading these threads is always like a Who's Who of underachievers in elementary science
Just curious, what exactly would be your achievements in science?
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Yes, dum dums, everyone, especially the scientists, knows this
Scientist also know how to take spatially and temporally under resolved, uncertain, and unreliable data and use mathematical tricks such as extrapolation, model coefficient tuning, and filtering and make an entire career out of it.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:42 am to CFDoc
He's the first "scientist" I know willing to make assumptions on less than 1/1000th percent data set
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:42 am to 200MPHCOBRA
does this graph scare you?
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:43 am to CaptainBrannigan
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But it snowed last week.
That was in 2019, nothing to do with last years global warming
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 8:43 am
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:44 am to Grim
quote:allegedly
2018 was Earth's 4th hottest year on record
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:44 am to 50_Tiger
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I cant remember in the 32 years ive been alive a Polar Vortex reaching as far down as friggin Louisiana.
Go look at weather records for Christmas 1989.
date high low
12/21 47 27
12/22 27 13
12/23 25 8
12/24 37 10
12/25 51 22
We didn't call it a "Polar Vortex"...
It was just a Hellacious cold snap.
There was a comparable cold snap around Jan 11 1962.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:45 am to Prominentwon
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How long have they been keeping meteorological records? Since the 1880s? I’m just guessing because I know it hasn’t been a very long time.
Do you guys not read articles before commenting on the article?
It literally tells you in the first paragraph.
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Am I the only one that understands how small amount of time that is in the grand scheme of things? It’s microscopic.
No.
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Have we ever been this hot BEFORE they started record keeping?
We have been much hotter.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:45 am to Grim
But polar vortex in north U.S.
Also..
LINK
Also..
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The authors found that disease and war wiped out 90 percent of the indigenous population in the Americas, or about 55 million people. The earth, they argue, then reclaimed the land that these populations left behind. The new vegetation pulled heat-trapping carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and into the land, contributing to what scientists refer to as the “Little Ice Age.”
LINK
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 8:49 am
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:46 am to Balloon Huffer
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The US has 7 of the top 10 cleanest air cities in the world. THE WORLD
Are you sure about your stance?
Clean is a very relative term. Compare the air in these cities today with the air quality in the same cities 100 years ago.
Posted on 2/7/19 at 8:48 am to Grim
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2018 was Earth's 4th hottest year on record
This is due to the global weather effects of global cooling.
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