re: 2 civilians die in West Baton Rouge car chase

I started thinking more about police chase and just did a quick search for "protocol for high speed police chase" just to see what comes up.

There is nothing.. Well, I don't see anything on a standard protocol, but there are a bunch of articles about high speed pursuits. In some cases police have wrecked, in this article a police discusses their protocol in Bozeman, Montana after a chase in 2014.

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McLaughlin and Stratman explained chasing a suspect like Brandemihl can be risky, so they have certain protocols in place to keep the public and themselves safe. One of the first things they consider before deciding whether o pursue someone is how busy the surrounding area is. They also consider who the person is, and whether chasing them would put their officers or the public in more danger. "The traffic conditions, the speed of the pursuit, and what the severity of the offense is, all of that is being considered the entire time, you're re-evaluating as the pursuit progresses," Stratman said. An example of that re-evaluating -- at one point, Brandemihl crashed through a fence, and barbed wire whipped the trooper's car, damaging the hood. McLaughlin explained at the time, the trooper was deciding whether to get out of his car to put down road spikes, but decided not to. "It really saved his life," McLaughlin said. "That barbed wire could have done some significant damage to my officer." Rather than follow Brandemihl through fields, fences, over railroad tracks, and across I-90, law enforcement set up perimeters and stop sticks. "We were trying to contain him by staying to the roads," Lt. Stratman said. Stratman and McLaughlin explained while the Brandemihl chase was unusual, they stuck to protocol and eventually were able to arrest him. "One bad person is enough," McLaughlin said.

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NBCMontana.com

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MADISON COUNTY, Tenn.- High speed pursuits can be one of the most dangerous situations on the road, not only for officers but for the public.

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After a horrific end to a chase in Florida, what is done here in Tennessee to prevent police pursuits from going from bad to worse.

A Florida police officer in a high speed pursuit, flies through an intersection, t-boning another car.
“That was just… negligence,” said Chief Deputy Steve Overton of the Madison County Sheriff’s Office.

On traffic cam video, at one angle, the officer had a red light, which one cruiser slowed down for, but the other sped right through it.

“He was in clear violation of Tennessee state law if that would have happened here in Tennessee,” said Chief Deputy Overton.

Officers in Florida said it was also a violation of their state laws, which like Tennessee’s are in place to protect the public from violent wrecks like these.

“Even if we have the green light, we’re supposed to slow down and check the intersection make sure it’s clear before we precede through,” said Chief Deputy Overton.

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This is from 2016.

wbbjtv.com

There are a lot of these stories.

I was just thinking. In the situation this thread is about. The suspect broke into a family member's home then stole their car right? The family members call the police, I assume the police located the vehicle and that's when a chase broke out. Unless the suspect is driving like a bat out of hell, which I don't know if that was the case or not, why not just follow them.

If someone in a stolen car suddenly notices the cops coming their way with the lights and siren on they are going to try to get away which leads to erratic driving.. Then as the chase goes on other police join the chase and before you know it, there are multiple cars on highways or interstates driving at max speeds and each car adds to the risk

I just keep thinking about it. There are multiple reasons high speed police chase happens so I know it all depends on the situation, but is pretty obvious there needs to be better communication between police departments.

For example, if a chase starts on the interstate somewhere in Baton Rouge, EBR borders with the following parishes: WBR, Iberville, Ascension, Livingston, St. Helena, East & West Feliciana. Depending on where the chase starts, the car being chased has different options as it passes by different exits or if it gets off a certain exit then there are only so many options they can go so instead of different departments waiting for it to pass through their area so they can join in, is it not possible to get ahead of it?

I know it all happens so fast, but lets say a car chase involving the police starts a few miles west of the Miss River Bridge, the vehicle is going east. It crosses the bridge and stays on I10 then it goes on I12.

Instead of all units going towards the chase, wouldn't it be better if there are units going to the exits. On I12 there is the Essen exit, the Drusilla exit, airline then I think Sherwood is next. I think the Millersville exit is the last one in EBR, but as soon as departments in LP hear about it, they head to their I12 exits. If they get word soon enough, they can stop traffic on the surface streets and have whatever tool they used to stop a vehicle laid out, etc.

It just seems like this is something that is done a certain way because its just how it has always been done and that there are police aware that there needs to be change in how high speed car chase are done, but thats where any effort is stopped. It looks cool in movies like Smokey and the Bandit just looking at all of these stories from over the years, its obvious its a safety issue...

I know its way too long of a post, but I was just thinking about this earlier and just want to see if others have something to add to this.

There is zero reason to chase another vehicle through a populated area with no regard for safety.

PROTECT & serve. Cop should be in jail.

There is a new technology out called Star Chase. The lead police car in a chase gets close enough to shoot a dart into the bad guys car. It has GPS technology that allows the LEO to back off the chase and track the car. This will be pretty standard in Patrol cars 5-7 years from now. 2 of my LEO clients are implementing now.

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his first name has the comma to the top.

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This doofus was probably thinking it was his time to shine, headed up LA1 120 mph thinking he was Bo Duke. Shame those kids had to pay for their recklessness.

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Guaranteed this fat frick has a blue punisher decal on his car.

Seems like his take is in line with the official take.
The officer is being charged and has been fired.

Beautiful young girls. Can't even imagine what their families are going thru right now.


ETA;

I retired from LE after 25 years and can tell you that high speed pursuits are the most dangerous threat to the general public by LE. You have to have permission granted from watch commander / shift captain to even engage in a pursuit. This guy was not even on the call and made it his business to get involved in this 'pursuit' which he had no authorization. Complete negligence on his part and as a result two families lost their beautiful daughters. He'll pay the price b/c he has nothing to back up his actions. Sad situation for those families.

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No chase policies are a good thing

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Ask NOPD about that

uote:Winburn told troopers he is prescribed Adderall. Why the hell is an adult on adderall, unless they are narcoleptic?

Weak internal constitution , many that are prescribed it and similar drugs as kid can’t function as adults without it.