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re: 1950's in America. Was it really better than today?

Posted on 10/2/15 at 2:52 pm to
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 2:52 pm to
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I don't actually care about figuring you out on a personal level. My points were rhetorical, about whites in general. Obviously I don't know if you have kids or your living situation. Everything I've said still applies, whether it's to you on a personal level or not.



I don't care whether you know me either. Yet you continue to try and label, so that you can extrapolate that into bizarre rantings with no coherent message.

And I didn't mislead you. I live about a mile from what you'd probably call ghetto. I live in the city limits of Atlanta, the most popular black city in America. All of that is true. If you live in Atlanta, and unless you're behind a gate on an estate, you're not insulated from black folks. Just how it is.
Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 2:53 pm to
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Yet you continue to try and label
Like what? Gentrifier. We covered that one. What other labels?
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 2:59 pm to
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Like what? Gentrifier. We covered that one. What other labels?



Suburban, yeah?
Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:04 pm to
Word.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:11 pm to
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A man could work a regular factory job and live a nice middle class life while his wife stayed home. Communities were tight knit and people didn't lock their doors.

People loved their country, our culture and traditions were much more unified and in tact.

It's true as corny as it sounds.


Took winning a world war to get to that point though. So unified that floundering around in Korea and leaving did not seem to rustle many jimmies either.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:13 pm to
Yes in that you could call a spade a spade.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:15 pm to
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It's shameful that everything in your world has to be viewed through a racial prism. There was a lot more going on then than lynchings and poll taxes.


Do you think that was true for the people being lynched and poll taxed?

Posted by LSUinMA
Commerce, Texas
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:20 pm to
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Northfield is a nice place


Well, we'll have to agree to disagree, but I appreciate the good cheer.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:21 pm to
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I think a minority of people would rather live during the current time period rather than the 1950's.



FIFY
Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:23 pm to
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Do you think that was true for the people being lynched and poll taxed?
Did you know the vast majority of lynchings were "vigilante justice" - violent offenders - murderers and rapists - that the carpetbaggers wouldn't prosecute. Not that I'm defending lynchings, but it was a pretty shite-tastic situation.

Obviously someone like Emmitt Till was an exception and he became the poster boy. A horrible thing. But how is it more horrible than the much bigger number of whites murdered by blacks every single year? Why do only certain murders from a certain time period affect you?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:27 pm to
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Did you know the vast majority of lynchings were "vigilante justice" - violent offenders - murderers and rapists - that the carpetbaggers wouldn't prosecute. Not that I'm defending lynchings, but it was a pretty shite-tastic situation.


No, I didn't know that. I don't know that I know it even know.

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Obviously someone like Emmitt Till was an exception and he became the poster boy. A horrible thing. But how is it more horrible than the much bigger number of whites murdered by blacks every single year? Why do only certain murders from a certain time period affect you?


You're focused on lynchings. I'm focused on Jim Crow in general - i.e. systematic, systemic, institionalized, government-sanctioned persecution of an entire segment of the population.

Anyone's answer to "would you rather be in the 50's" should properly be viewed through the prism of how society was treating its most unfortunate. And the truth is very very ugly. If a person from the persecuted class wouldn't happily answer "why, the 1950's, sir!", then that should influence your own answer. A willingness to just brush aside an entire relevant facet of a society because you didn't happen to be the persecuted one is crass and immoral.

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:30 pm to
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I'm focused on Jim Crow in general - i.e. systematic, systemic, institionalized, government-sanctioned persecution of an entire segment of the population.
Affirmative action? Forced diversity in any place that's too white?

Hello?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:30 pm to
As soon as I saw your name in this thread, I had absolutely no doubt which direction the conversation went to. Thanks for being so dependable, you angry little man!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:33 pm to
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Anyone's answer to "would you rather be in the 50's" should properly be viewed through the prism of how society was treating its most unfortunate.


You believe your values have to be shared by everyone. They aren't.

No one thinks Jim Crowe laws were awesome. Maybe, just maybe...some of us believe government created poverty traps are just as bad.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:33 pm to
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A willingness to just brush aside an entire relevant facet of a society because you didn't happen to be the persecuted one is crass and immoral.


By that logic, you're glad millions of people died of AIDS since the 1970s. We didn't have AIDS in the 1950s but you'll just brush that aside since you don't have AIDS. You're crass and immoral.
Posted by CaptainBrannigan
Good Ole Rocky Top Tennessee
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:33 pm to
All you OT Ballers want to pay 90% tax rate because I know you all fall in the top tax bracket.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:34 pm to
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1950's in America. Was it really better than today?



From the stories I have been told and just the films I have seen.. The 50's were WAY COOL.... America grew up in that decade... And changed how the rest of society went forward... People talk about the "freedom movement" in the 60's.... It was caused by what ways the 50's changed America... The sports , The cars, The being able to walk along the street and not worry about being robbed or killed... The Music.... TV came of age.... YES Its way better than today.... So were the 80's... And remember a GUY[Reagan] From the 50's shaped the 80's into what they were......
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:35 pm to
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A man could work a regular factory job and live a nice middle class life while his wife stayed home. Communities were tight knit and people didn't lock their doors. People loved their country, our culture and traditions were much more unified and in tact.








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It's true as corny as it sounds.



Not corny at all............
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:40 pm to
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The 50's were WAY COOL.


I wouldn't call them way cool. I would just recognize that the '50s had some very positive features--the civil rights movement, rock and roll, awesome cars, economic prosperity, and low crime.

There were plenty of negatives as well. Segregation and the threat of WW3 being at the top of the list.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 3:44 pm to
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There is no "better decade" period. All have had strengths and weaknesses.
there are some that just flat sucked out loud

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