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re: 1950's in America. Was it really better than today?

Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by genro
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:09 pm to
I have asked them. A lot of them were better off. It wasn't nearly as bad as your teacher would have you believe.

We could've desegregated incrementally, rationally and peacefully. Instead of painting it as pure victim versus oppressor and using the barrel of a gun to ruin communities and schools, stigmatizing all southern whites in a ridiculous abjectly failed social experiment that continues to this day
This post was edited on 10/2/15 at 1:10 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:09 pm to
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The funny thing is most blacks are probably more disgruntled and less satisfied today than they were then.


So are white people by the looks of this thread.

Speaking for myself, I'm cool with not having to work at a factory only to get asbestosis or mesothelioma and die at 40.
This post was edited on 10/2/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85580 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:10 pm to
That's simply impossible to believe. I don't believe those stats. The FBI gets their numbers from local police, and in many cities local police aren't honest about their crime rates. We all know NOPD skews stats.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:10 pm to
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I have asked them. A lot of them were better off. It wasn't nearly as your teacher would have you believe.



Haha, this anecdotal and biased assertion isn't going to get very far.

You can debate about methods for segregation, but it's absurd to talk about our moral fiber during an era where many of us treated our neighbors like animals.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:11 pm to
For white men? frick yeah it was.

And I'm a white male so I really wish we could go back to that way of life.
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62713 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:11 pm to
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Haha, this anecdotal and biased assertion isn't going to get very far.
It's specifically what you asked me for you frickstick

You wanna look at the poverty, crime numbers, etc go right ahead
This post was edited on 10/2/15 at 1:12 pm
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34634 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:12 pm to
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We could've desegregated incrementally


So you're saying that everything sucks now because people were given equal rights too quickly?
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62713 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:13 pm to
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during an era where many of us treated our neighbors like animals.
We didn't. We treat them worse now
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:13 pm to
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It's specifically what you asked me for you frickstick



Listen Mr. Jewsaretherealthreat, don't get out of sorts simply because you waxed poetic about how morally courageous were in the 1950s and someone had the audacity to point how fricking dumb you sound
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:14 pm to
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The FBI gets their numbers from local police, and in many cities local police aren't honest about their crime rates.


yes I'm sure that police departments were much more honest in 1950 about reporting crime than they are now....

Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62713 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:15 pm to
That's not at all what happened. You said some vague high-school bullshite about how awful we were to blacks. Then you asked me for something, I provided it, you laughed and dismissed it
Posted by TheJones
Member since Nov 2009
34634 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:15 pm to
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stigmatizing all southern whites


Those poor, oppressed white people. So tragic
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
85580 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:18 pm to
Well if you agree all of the stats on your graph are bogus then your own argument is fail.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:18 pm to
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That's not at all what happened. You said some vague high-school bullshite about how awful we were to blacks. Then you asked me for something, I provided it, you laughed and dismissed it



Uh, it's not made up bullshite that blacks were treated as second class citizens in the 50s.

And I didn't ask you for anything. I said "ask black people" and you came back with some obviously absurd narrative about how they told you it's worse now.

We can argue about whether the dependent state of black America now is worse than the truly oppressed state of black America then, but until you acknowledge that the latter even happened it's kind of pointless.
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:21 pm to
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The funny thing is most blacks are probably more disgruntled and less satisfied today than they were then.




what a joke. I am sure Joe Lewis loved playing on the PGA tour with people taking craps in the pens and he probably had it the best.

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You can thank liberal policies which have destroyed the black family unit and any sense of self-respect and responsibility in that community.


In our community***. How is someone suppose to have any self worth when they treated as 3rd class citizen?

you can blame Jim Crow for the mess we have today

This post was edited on 10/2/15 at 1:28 pm
Posted by genro
Member since Nov 2011
62713 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:21 pm to
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Uh, it's not made up bullshite that blacks were treated as second class citizens in the 50s. 
what, like whites got chosen over blacks for schools and jobs?

Or like random whites used to murder blacks and the media undereported it?

Places that were 'too black' were always under attack?

Interesting
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40156 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:22 pm to
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The 1950's was America's decade

Because the rest of the world was in shambles
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87748 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:22 pm to
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Or like random whites used to murder blacks and the media undereported it?



Well this 100% happened

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what, like whites got chosen over blacks for schools and jobs?



Yeah, like 100% of the time

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Places that were 'too black' were always under attack?



Yes, but actual attack
Posted by Dire Wolf
bawcomville
Member since Sep 2008
40818 posts
Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:27 pm to
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Well this 100% happened


LINK

It did
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/2/15 at 1:31 pm to
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etter for some reasons, not for some reasons....
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