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re: 149,200 more have died in the US so far this than year than on an average year

Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by Shaun176
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
2692 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:22 pm to
About 3 million people or a little less than 1% of the population of the US dies each year.
Posted by High C
viewing the fall....
Member since Nov 2012
57333 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:23 pm to
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In this case O'Neal said a patient has had a surgery delayed three times since February. That patient's cancer is now incurable.


Sorry, sir, we’re going to allow you to die of cancer so we can keep some beds open for COVID cases.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:32 pm to
Thanks for fixing the OP.

Even though 149,200 is a high number, seeing it compared to other countries still gives good perspective when hearing about how terrible the US is allegedly handling this.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 4:34 pm
Posted by NastyTiger
Hammond/Baton Rouge/Lafayette
Member since Jun 2005
11271 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:42 pm to
Wonder what depression rates are these days.
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
25379 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:45 pm to
Chicago holding the trophy up
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:54 pm to
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She also shared the story of how the volume of coronavirus patients has impacted patients suffering from any number of non-COVID illnesses.


I believe this is what caused both my grandparents’ death.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
59162 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:55 pm to
-Drug overdoses increasing
-Suicides almost doubling
-Murders doubling in major cities
-People not getting medical care because they are afraid
-intentionally forcing nursing homes into taking COVID patients resulting in 50,000 deaths

But let's blame the actual virus instead of the RESPONSE to the virus and our incompetent government
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
37279 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:56 pm to
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But let's blame the actual virus


I mean...that seems reasonable, right?

Can't have one without the other

ETA: Our leadership definitely could have done a better job, but it's not like this is a U.S. only problem.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 4:58 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35355 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 4:58 pm to
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All oof the lockdowns have affected death rates from other causes. For example, automobile deaths must be way down?
There is actually some evidence to suggest these types of deaths are down since while 18+ has a lot of excess deaths 17 and under is actually like 20-30 percent lower than usual, and accidents are a leading cause of death for they age group. Plus some insurers were even refunding customers at one point.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35355 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:02 pm to
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Drug overdoses increasing
-Suicides almost doubling
I haven’t seen any evidence of this. Do you have any?
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Murders doubling in major cities
At least locally, the Columbus police were tweeting about an increase in murders in June, but they ignored that they were down in January-May so it was basically unchanged for the year (I think 1 more, but well down from the peak a couple years ago).

So I highly doubt murders are anywhere close to double.

And based on your post history, I suspect you’re largely making these all up, or basing them on some really small samples or localities, in a thread about the entire nation.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 5:03 pm
Posted by CrimsonFever
Gump Hard or Go Home
Member since Jul 2012
18049 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:06 pm to
23% over the average here, I’ll take that over the UK and Spain which are around 50% above their average deaths.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
18894 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:09 pm to
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Posted by SloaneRanger
Upper Hurstville
Member since Jan 2014
10811 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:19 pm to
You have to wait until 2020 is in the books and look at the whole year to really evaluate it. Many of thee Covid deaths were on death's doorstep for something else before Covid got them. They weren't seeing th end of 2020 under any circumstances. I predict full year 2020 will have an increase in mortality but not as much as people think.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
39973 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:25 pm to
Shouldn't have got covid if they didn't want to die
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
130729 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:35 pm to
The graph you posted in the OP doesn't agree with daily death rate of Americans.

There are just under 7,800 deaths each day in the U.S. from all causes. 2017 CDC Data
So with July 13 being the 193 day of the year, on average by that date 1,505,400 Americans would typically have died YTD. The "149,200" deaths shown on your graph doesn't make any sense.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:35 pm to
Yet heart attacks, obesity deaths, strokes, etc are down.... Suicides are up right now and Covid is up..... There is a disconnect and we know the Covid numbers are not accurate
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:38 pm to
You’re reading the graph wrong. The Y axis is weekly deaths. The red number is excess deaths due to covid YTD. It’s the area under the curve
Posted by tonydtigr
Beautiful Downtown Glenn Springs,Tx
Member since Nov 2011
5783 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:50 pm to
Isn't there a stickied thread for this type of post at the top of the OT?
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 5:51 pm
Posted by Ronaldo Burgundiaz
NWA
Member since Jan 2012
6683 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 5:51 pm to
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That patient's cancer is now incurable
Straight frick everyone who pushed the bullshite lockdowns.

Neil Ferguson, Trump, Fauci, soft as baby-shite OTers. All of you.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
52353 posts
Posted on 7/18/20 at 7:03 pm to
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Were these people going to live forever?


While I agree in principle against lockdown now for this virus.....arguing that human beings aren’t immortal and will eventually die from one thing or another might not be the best way to get traction of your point.
This post was edited on 7/18/20 at 7:08 pm
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